Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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Tobin wrote:And when you click on your source - it doesn't link to any information to prove the assertion is true. Linking to misinformation doesn't prove it is true. It just means you don't bother to check your sources and have no interest in presenting actual facts. But, that is no surprise coming from you.


My source:
The Spiritual Roots of the Democratic Party: Why I Am a Mormon Democrat
by Todd Compton

This screen: Introduction; Rich and Poor
next screen Rich and Poor, continued; Civil Rights
next screen The Environment; Education; Word of Wisdom; Grace
final screen Abortion; The Politics of Personal Destruction; The Two Party System; Prominent Mormon Democrats
Notes

[This paper, originally given as a talk at Sunstone Symposium, Summer 2001, is not definitive; I have much to learn on politics, so would be interested in hearing responses from both Democrat and Republican readers. Part of the reason I am placing a preliminary version of this paper on the internet is to allow interested readers to help me refine it (in preparation for eventual publication, hopefully). If Republicans have arguments or information that counter the opinions expressed here, I would be very interested in having such readers contact me with their perspectives.]


Your source:

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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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Drifting wrote:
Tobin wrote:And when you click on your source - it doesn't link to any information to prove the assertion is true. Linking to misinformation doesn't prove it is true. It just means you don't bother to check your sources and have no interest in presenting actual facts. But, that is no surprise coming from you.


My source:
The Spiritual Roots of the Democratic Party: Why I Am a Mormon Democrat
by Todd Compton

This screen: Introduction; Rich and Poor
next screen Rich and Poor, continued; Civil Rights
next screen The Environment; Education; Word of Wisdom; Grace
final screen Abortion; The Politics of Personal Destruction; The Two Party System; Prominent Mormon Democrats
Notes

[This paper, originally given as a talk at Sunstone Symposium, Summer 2001, is not definitive; I have much to learn on politics, so would be interested in hearing responses from both Democrat and Republican readers. Part of the reason I am placing a preliminary version of this paper on the internet is to allow interested readers to help me refine it (in preparation for eventual publication, hopefully). If Republicans have arguments or information that counter the opinions expressed here, I would be very interested in having such readers contact me with their perspectives.]


Your source:

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I didn't make the assertion that Boyd K Packer was a Democrat and link to an unsourced preliminary paper. You look pretty silly here Drifting and have demonstrated you have no interest in presenting factual evidence. Is this how you research all your posts? A legitimate researcher would link to a paper with footnotes that could be checked, but you can't even manage that.
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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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Tobin wrote:A legitimate researcher would link to a paper with footnotes that could be checked, but you can't even manage that.


You are quite right, but even then it's significantly more than you!

In terms of the OP question, 'can an Apostle be a Democrat?', what's your well thought out referenced response?
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From an essay by Todd Compton

Among the present-day General Authorities, the following are Democrats: Seventy Marlin Jensen; (and here's a surprise) Apostle Boyd K. Packer[55]; First Presidency counselor James E. Faust.[56]


That was back when a Democrat could be a conservative. Not possible today as even one with the best of intentions runs afoul of Romans 1:32.
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bcspace wrote:That was back when a Democrat could be a conservative. Not possible today as even one with the best of intentions runs afoul of Romans 1:32.


Agreed. All Democrats/liberals should leave the church immediately.
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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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Drifting wrote:And you can provide an official link showing he has Republican affiliation can you?

let us not get off the reservation there Drifting...you did make the claim
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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:And you can provide an official link showing he has Republican affiliation can you?

let us not get off the reservation there Drifting...you did make the claim
Proof


Which I supported.
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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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bcspace wrote:That was back when a Democrat could be a conservative. Not possible today as even one with the best of intentions runs afoul of Romans 1:32.


While the scripture doesn't really say it, I am pretty sure Bcspace was referring to the days before the Civil Rights Act, in which one could be a proud Dixiecrat. These folks now fit in best with the social conservatives of the Republican Party.

Wonder what President Packer's take on Log Cabin Republicans would be?
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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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"We favored [Apostle] John Henry's going on the stump so as to convince the people that a man could be a Republican and still be a Saint." - Abraham Cannon, 1891
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Re: Can an Apostle also be a Democrat...?

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That was back when a Democrat could be a conservative. Not possible today as even one with the best of intentions runs afoul of Romans 1:32.

Agreed. All Democrats/liberals should leave the church immediately.


No, they should repent and disavow all association with that or any other leftwing party.
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