God's Promise to Send Elijah before the Second Coming

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Re: God's Promise to Send Elijah before the Second Coming

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The prophet Malachi prophesied that God would send Elijah before the second coming of Christ, and therefore when Elijah, being sent by God, returned to the earth and gave some teachings and instructions from the Lord, he fulfilled that prophecy.
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gdemetz wrote:The prophet Malachi prophesied that God would send Elijah before the second coming of Christ, and therefore when Elijah, being sent by God, returned to the earth and gave some teachings and instructions from the Lord, he fulfilled that prophecy.


Why didn't Joseph tell the saints it happened?
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April 3, 1836.
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gdemetz wrote:The prophet Malachi prophesied that God would send Elijah before the second coming of Christ, and therefore when Elijah, being sent by God, returned to the earth and gave some teachings and instructions from the Lord, he fulfilled that prophecy.


Why didn't Joseph tell the saints it happened?
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So, here is what is so strange. (hahaha)

Jesus has John the Baptist be his forerunner dude. They are on earth in physical bodies at the same time.

Elias (or whatever) is supposed to be sent before the second coming of Jesus.

So...he comes in VISION to two people (supposedly) in 1836. However, he seems have been an afterrunner because Jesus already came in VISION prior to that.

OOPS!

Beyond that, why on earth (or in heaven) would you have your forerunner come hundreds of years before you??? To totally different people??? And then have those people KEEP IT SECRET for DECADES!!! That makes no sense.

OOPS! There I go applying logic again.
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I am speaking of Elijah now, and his visitation is recorded in the 110th section of the Doctrine and Covenants!
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just me wrote:
gdemetz wrote: Remember, Joseph Smith was not the only one to witness of these things! He had a witness when he saw Elias.


What is the earliest time we find an account of this?

If I recall correctly, this was never discussed until it was added to the D&C under the direction of Brigham Young in the 1870s..ish.

Are you aware of it being known among the saints or ever spoken of by Joseph Smith during his life?
gdemetz wrote:April 3, 1836.

The Joseph Smith Translation (JST), also called the Inspired Version (IV), was a revision of the Bible by Joseph Smith, produced as his manuscript in 1828.

He saw Elias in 1836 (eight years after producing JST), and he DID know then that Elias is the same person as John the Baptist.
JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATION
Mark 9:3
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(compare Mark 9:4)
And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses or in other words, John the Baptist and Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.


My thread about it (with 0 replies and 28 views) : viewtopic.php?p=580369#p580369


Warning: the JST Mark 9:3 - as a hot potato - has disappeared from LDS.org. See my thread for details.
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gdemetz wrote:I am speaking of Elijah now, and his visitation is recorded in the 110th section of the Doctrine and Covenants!


Why hasn't Jesus come yet? Why send the "forerunner" hundreds of years beforehand??? To different people than he will appear to???

Why did Elijah come in VISION after Jesus came in VISION?

That makes no sense.

Why wasn't D&C 110 known to the saints until 1876? Why didn't Joseph ever speak of it or tell the saints about such an important event???
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This might not make sense to you, however, Christ is not limited to a certain number of appearances that He is allowed to make. The prophesy merely states that Elijah will come before the great and dreadful day of the Lord, or in other words, the great second coming when He will wear red apparel and the whole world, including the spirit world, will see Him. If one wishes to be like the Jews who still set a table place in anticipation of Elijah's return, then it is up to them, but they are just wasting time for nothing.
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gdemetz wrote:This might not make sense to you, however, Christ is not limited to a certain number of appearances that He is allowed to make. The prophesy merely states that Elijah will come before the great and dreadful day of the Lord, or in other words, the great second coming when He will wear red apparel and the whole world, including the spirit world, will see Him. If one wishes to be like the Jews who still set a table place in anticipation of Elijah's return, then it is up to them, but they are just wasting time for nothing.


It is interesting that the colour red is also synonymous with the Devil, Santa Claus and women of 'loose character'.
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