Blasphemy or Biblical?
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That's what you and others claim; that it takes place in the brain, but I say there is much more to it than that, as the doctor I mentioned found out! There is no way that the brain can tell you that there is a red shoe on top of the hospital building if you have never see the top of that building! There are many documented experiences like that!
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gdemetz wrote:That's what you and others claim; that it takes place in the brain, but I say there is much more to it than that, as the doctor I mentioned found out! There is no way that the brain can tell you that there is a red shoe on top of the hospital building if you have never see the top of that building! There are many documented experiences like that!
Again, when you say 'many' you really mean 'hardly any'.
In fact there was more corroboration of Nessie than there has been of OBE's.
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gdemetz wrote:That's what you and others claim; that it takes place in the brain, but I say there is much more to it than that, as the doctor I mentioned found out! There is no way that the brain can tell you that there is a red shoe on top of the hospital building if you have never see the top of that building! There are many documented experiences like that!
I am not claiming anything, but I am careful to realize that our information of these stories may not be very accurate at all, and that vital information may be lacking as well. Studies have been done to see if this is really happening, but so far I am not aware that they have had positive results. I realize that you being a believing member may still affect how much weight you give testimonies, but if you study up a bit on it you may find you have less confidence in them for various reasons.
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In my opinion, if one hears a number of stories like the "red shoe" one, then the conclusion which I have come up with is the only one that makes sense to me! If you have another valid explanation, please, by all means, let me know!
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gdemetz wrote:In my opinion, if one hears a number of stories like the "red shoe" one, then the conclusion which I have come up with is the only one that makes sense to me! If you have another valid explanation, please, by all means, let me know!
I like the stories as well. The difference may be that I tend not to put to much stock into them since we cannot be sure of the details. There are many other valid explanations we are not aware of like memory of the event changing.
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gdemetz wrote:That's what you and others claim; that it takes place in the brain, but I say there is much more to it than that, as the doctor I mentioned found out! There is no way that the brain can tell you that there is a red shoe on top of the hospital building if you have never see the top of that building! There are many documented experiences like that!
Red shoe stories are urban legends. It's always happening to someone who is a friend of a friend of a relative of a friend.
I've seen the story attributed to a nurse and the same story attributed to a doctor. Seems to be a lot of buildings with red shoes on the top.
What purpose is there in finding lost shoes? That's like speaking in tongues in an unintelligible babble that no one can translate. What good is it?
I can speak several languages. My wife can speak several more. We don't spend our time talking to each other in languages the other does not comprehend. Misunderstanding is easy enough even when we speak the same language.
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This story was a first hand account which I saw on some documentary show a good while back, and the doctor was really surprised when he found that that red shoe was on the roof. There are many such stories which have been documented like that one.
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gdemetz wrote:This story was a first hand account which I saw on some documentary show a good while back, and the doctor was really surprised when he found that that red shoe was on the roof. There are many such stories which have been documented like that one.
I like documentary's, but you still need to be careful. How do you know the details of this story are accurate. Do you have the first hand accounts, or is it coming to you through others, or through the filter of the show you watched.
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gdemetz wrote:This story was a first hand account which I saw on some documentary show a good while back, and the doctor was really surprised when he found that that red shoe was on the roof. There are many such stories which have been documented like that one.
Does the Doctor now believe in OBE's?
When you say 'many such stories' do you actually mean 'very few such stories'?
There have been 'many such stories' about Nessie sightings - does that mean Nessie is as likely to exist as OBE's? If not, why not?
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I can't speak for the doctor, but judging by his reactions, I think it is fair to say that it definitely made a very big impression on him.