subgenius wrote:Yes, clearly a violation...no one is disputing that
You are making progress, well done
and that violation is a minor one
A senior Church Leader flagrantly disobeying an official proclamation from the First Presidency in order to gain personal and political gain is 'a minor offence'? Really?
That's like saying Paul H Dunn was just using a little poetic licence....
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
A senior Church Leader flagrantly disobeying an official proclamation from the First Presidency in order to gain personal and political gain is 'a minor offence'? Really?
That's like saying Paul H Dunn was just using a little poetic licence....
speaking of poetic license, glad to see yours is till valid...though i notice the upgrade to hyperbole.
just another perfect example of you being disingenuous - "flagrantly"? hardly...carelessly, yes..but flagrantly would be more appropriate if he did it from the stand at Conference. And exactly what "personal" gain? what certain "political gain"? Is he to be afforded something that any other Romney supporter would not receive?? What proof do you have to offer from your OP? (hint: none)
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
W. Craig Zwick, a member of the church’s First Quorum of the Seventy, was in Las Vegas as part of a fundraising blitz for the Romney campaign when he got into an email exchange about setting up a golf date with an acquaintance in Salt Lake City.
"I’m down in Vegas helping Mitt Romney today," Zwick, whose son Spencer is Romney’s finance chairman, wrote from his church email address. "How much can you contribute to the Romney for President Committee today? You can only give $2,500 max for you and your wife. Let me know — let’s take zback America!"
It is worth noting that this member of the First Q of the 70 receives a salary from the Church because he works full time for the Church. Well, when I say full time I mean the time he has spare after working on Romneys campaign or paying golf.
P.s. did you spot the nepotism?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Yea, and there shall be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die; and it shall be well with us. And there shall also be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry; nevertheless, fear God — he will justify in committing a little sin; yea, lie a little, take the advantage of one because of his words, dig a pit for thy neighbor; there is no harm in this; and do all these things, for tomorrow we die; and if it so be that we are guilty, God will beat us with a few stripes, and at last we shall be saved in the kingdom of God. Yea, and there shall be many which shall teach after this manner, false and vain and foolish doctrines, and shall be puffed up in their hearts, and shall seek deep to hide their counsels from the Lord; and their works shall be in the dark.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote: At what point would it become a major violation?
When he raises money for a Democrat, of course!
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Nope. its a minor violation, but you obviously would like to exaggerate the situation......so,please...proceed at will.
Danger: falling rocks ahead...
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
I nominate Sir Bluffalot for his ad hoc Heavenly-Mother-has-been-dissed meme. But this thread may yet be the winner, if even by a nose.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Which clearly shows the GA in the OP has clearly and deliberately breached official FP policy. Sounds like a case for discipline to me....
What would you prefer?
1. Drawing and quartering
2. Burning at the stake
3. Being drawn and quartered while being burned at the stake.
4. Burning at the stake, followed by waterboarding.
5. An entire week locked in a holding cell with Justine Bieber (control yourself Paul...)
6. Being forced to listen to Barry Manilow records while being waterboarded.
7. Sent to Detroit
8. Boiled alive in molten peanut butter.
9. All of the above.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
