The LDS members and the Kingdom of God

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Re: The LDS members and the Kingdom of God

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sheryl wrote:Perhaps we can say that everyone sees what they are able to see, and so is on the path and interprets as they are able.



Each group tends to interpret according to their world views.

If we trust God, don't you think we would trust his plan for each person?


Which God, and which plan? There are so many.

Again, established for whom?


I would say by society in general. Problem is there is no agreement on it.

Yes, the body can produce things that are way cool, but even cooler, the body can receive or be opened up to things beyond its imagination.


But we don't know what the body's limits are.

I heard an awe inspiring analogy yesterday. When the Apollo mission began to send back to us pictures of earth taken from space, and the view of space from somewhere beyond our backyards, were we not all awestruck? When we saw the images of the sun shining upon the earth? As our perspective was expanded what we were able to see and feel likewise expanded.


I don't know many who would consider the experience to be in any way communication with some divine being.

What is beyond matter itself is even more awe inspiring. If you could only see what we are made of, what is beyond this matter that we can now detect, if you could see the places from which our will, our wisdom, our understanding, our knowledge, or feelings and thoughts arise, your life would be changed forever. Something completely new would be established. See this is where 'God' is, not in the infinite physical, but the infinite within and behind the infinite physical.


Then we should be getting some really good wisdom and knowledge from you soon.

Just wait till it is revealed to you!


I'm sure the experience would be awesome. The spiritual is important even if we shouldn't take to much meaning away that is unlikely to be accurate.

We are all wrong all the time. Not only because we do not see and know, but because what can be seen and known as it is manifested in this world, changes constantly. This is because our God is living, Christ is living, meaning growing, evolving through its creation. And so what any of us thought true yesterday, today it has advanced to more, and if we do not advance along with it, we will be wrong.


It doesn't change constantly, and it has the better track record.

But you have answered my question, thank you. If I might paraphrase, if you experienced something appearing miraculous, you would assume that something is wrong with your brain?


I wouldn't say the brain is malfunctioning, but it is so complex and we know that it can under many different conditions produce these kinds of experiences. Science is only starting to scratch the surface here, but it is interesting to watch.

Yes, we all interpret according to where we are - our own personal experiencing up to that point. My question as, to adjust if from what you have offered, who are these people who experience incredible things such as this and conclude that these experiences were caused by a malfunction of the brain (if they were not on drugs)? Are are you speaking of conclusions reached by those outside of the experience?


here is an example. Not everyone who has sleep paralysis and experiences what they interpret as a demon or alien think when it is over that there really was one there. Many of them have had it explained to them what is going on and accept that this is the more likely that it occurred only in the mind.
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No, not the FLDS. I can't imagine their group as being the "little stone" which grows into a great mountain and fills the whole earth!
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gdemetz wrote:No, not the FLDS. I can't imagine their group as being the "little stone" which grows into a great mountain and fills the whole earth!


Maybe you can imagine it if I told you that they are growing faster then the LDS these days. :evil:
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They still would have a long way to go.
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gdemetz wrote:No, not the FLDS. I can't imagine their group as being the "little stone" which grows into a great mountain and fills the whole earth!



Islam perhaps?
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Islam? You can't be serious. Christ's teachings were definitely not Islamic.
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gdemetz wrote:Islam? You can't be serious. Christ's teachings were definitely not Islamic.


He is not serious. He is just looking to start another worthless tangent of wasted time. Don't take the bait.
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gdemetz wrote:Islam? You can't be serious. Christ's teachings were definitely not Islamic.



And yet...


In Islam, Jesus (Isa; Arabic: عيسى‎ ʿĪsā) is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[1] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. The Quran mentions Jesus twenty-five times, more often, by name, than Muhammad.[2][3] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah).
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Drifting wrote:
gdemetz wrote:Islam? You can't be serious. Christ's teachings were definitely not Islamic.



And yet...


In Islam, Jesus (Isa; Arabic: عيسى‎ ʿĪsā) is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[1] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. The Quran mentions Jesus twenty-five times, more often, by name, than Muhammad.[2][3] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah).


Ouch
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Don't know where the quote below originated. But assuming it's validity, it can't help but provoke questions re the uniqueness of Christianity, the whole Judaism fallacy. AND Theism itself...

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In Islam, Jesus (Isa; Arabic: عيسى‎ ʿĪsā) is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[1] The belief in Jesus (and all other messengers of God) is required in Islam, and a requirement of being a Muslim. The Quran mentions Jesus twenty-five times, more often, by name, than Muhammad.[2][3] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Alla


The dedication of the major posters in this thread deserve respect for their "faith" in absurdity if in nothing else. They draw attention to their likeness to false prophets down through the ages who have guided gullible souls into mistaken ways and suffering means.
In doing so, in modern, world wide view, they are revealing untruths that will, in the long run, justify the working of the destruction of faith-based social influence, as never before! Thank "God" for that!! :razz:
However, I do thank them for their good intentions. And encourage further study & thought. . .
Kindest regards, Roger
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