Elias, or in other words - I've changed the title...

[_madeleine]

I would only assume it is because the KJV Bible is not used outside of English speaking areas. Non-native speakers who do speak and read English very well have trouble understanding the English of the KJV.

Non-KJV Bibles, in any language, don't have the KJV oddness of translating the name Elijah/Elias. And I would imagine that converts from Christian religions would think it silly to claim it was John the Baptist at the Mount of Transfiguration,when the scriptures clearly state it was the Prophet Elijah, who had been dead a long time. John the Baptist was at that time, alive and well, and not recorded as being present.

Wasn't John the Baptist's head already separated from his body and served on a platter (Mark 6/Matthew 14) by the time the Mount of Transfiguration thing happened (Mark 9/Matthew 17), or is Mark 6/Matthew 14 not chronological?

-JV

You are correct, not alive and well. :)

[_ludwigm]

You're correct, he obviously appeared there as a spirit, and, of course, did not take place in the ordinance since he neither had a body, the higher priesthood, or the keys of sealing power. Joseph Smith was aware that he was referred to as Elias by Christ, and he was also aware that the term "Elias" could be applied to others, and the namesake appeared to Joseph Smith in the Kirtland temple on April 3, 1836.

I have three question for You:
1. Do You speak any language beyond English?
(If Your answer were "yes", then I would ask You please read any Bible in that language You speak/know)
2. (If Your answer was "no" to the 1st question, skip this) Did You read any Bible which non-english and not KJV?
3. (I am sorry, very sorry, this question may send me to telestial) Are You really that stupid?
Don't You really understand, that in bibles written in different languages there is no Elias? Moreover, there are no other, many Eliases? That bibles written in different languages can use a different name?
Are You really that stupid? Or do You simply play it to entertain us?

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In the Kirtland temple on April 3, 1836 no namesake appeared. The Elias who appeared was one - of more - translation errors of KJV.

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I've checked the meaning of the word aware. I wasn't certain...
You know, my native is not English, even I know (on some low level, as anybody can adjudge here) this language.
American Heritage Dictionary : aware adj. = having knowledge or cognizance
In the 20th century, uses of aware either alone or attributively (before a noun) have become more common in the generalized meanings 'well-informed' and 'alert to circumstances'
Please don't use the word aware and the name Joseph Smith in the same sentence. (Or please use didn't or wasn't before that word...)

[_madeleine]

I don't think it is stupidity. Sometimes I think obstinacy, but even then, I just think: they can't hear.

[_ludwigm]

(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

[_gdemetz]

It should be obvious to all you critics that when Jesus referred to John as Elias that this name had MORE meaning than just a name! It was a name that represented something! You critics like Shulem, Drifting, etc., are all the same! You spend hours on a Mormon discussion site when you don't even believe in Mormonism? Why? In my honest opinion, it is because you are filled with a Satanic inspired spirit of contention which constantly inspires you to attack, attack, attack, as if you didn't have anything else constructive better to do! In time you will all be proved wrong! The critics like you constantly criticized the Book of Mormon as being taken from the Spalding manuscripts for more than a century, until those manuscripts were discovered and shut them up!!! The same thing will happen to you in time! You don 't believe in Mormonism, so what do you believe in? Nothing? Or, perhaps you believe in the fairy tale of the virgin birth, or the fairy tale of just walking down the isle and making a profession of faith and then you will be saved forever and can do anything you want? Or, perhaps you believe in the fairy tale 3 in 1 god who is everywhere, but no where in particular? Just what the heck do you believe in besides attacking something which is very obvious to me that you know very little about?! You people are so spiritually blind that even when the scriptures tell you plainly that "ye are gods," you still can't seem to figure out what that means!!!

[_ludwigm]

It should be obvious to all you critics that when Jesus referred to John as Elias that this name had MORE meaning than just a name! It was a name that represented something!

In the German Bible Jesus referred to Johannes der Täufer (=John) as ELIA.
- Has ELIA MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?

In the Hungarian Bible Jesus referred to Keresztelő János (=John) as ILLÉS.
- Has ILLÉS MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?

In the Croatian Bible Jesus referred to Ivan Krstitelj (=John) as ILIJA.
- Has ILIJA MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?

In the Swahili Bible Jesus referred to Yohane mbatizaji (=)John as ELIYA.
- Has ELIYA MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?

In the Maori Bible Jesus referred to Hoani Kaiiriiri (=)John as IRAIA.
- Has IRAIA MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?

In the Korean Bible Jesus referred to 세례 요한 (=John) as 엘리야가.
- Has 엘리야가 MORE meaning than just a name? Does it represent something?


It is obvious to all us critics that You don't speak any language other than English and didn't read any Bible other than KJV.

[_gdemetz]

You still don't get it do you? Was John the Baptist's name either Elias of Elijah? No, it was not either one! Therefore, that name carried another meaning with it! So, if you say that it was Elijah (Elias in Greek) with Moses at the mount of Transfiguration, then that's OK. However, if you try to say that John was Elijah or Elias, then that is wrong. He came as an "Elias," or he came in the spirit of "Elias," but he was not Elias, nor was he Elijah. He was John the Baptist.

[_ludwigm]

You still don't get it do you? Was John the Baptist's name either Elias of Elijah? No, it was not either one! Therefore, that name carried another meaning with it!

Was John the Baptist's name
- Johannes der Täufer ?
- Keresztelő János ?
- Ivan Krstitelj ?
- Yohane mbatizaji ?
- Hoani Kaiiriiri ?
- 세례 요한 ?

No, it was John the Baptist, in English, the only language You know!

Therefore, that name:
- ELIA
- ILLÉS
- ILIJA
- ELIYA
- IRAIA
- 엘리야가
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . carried another meaning with it!


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FYI
A name is a word or term used for identification.
A personal name identifies a specific unique and identifiable individual person.
The use of personal names is not unique to humans. Dolphins also use symbolic names, as has been shown by recent research. Individual dolphins have distinctive whistles, to which they will respond even when there is no other information to clarify which dolphin is being referred to.
Caution must be exercised when translating, for there are ways that one language may prefer one type of name over another.



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Elias (/ɨˈlaɪ.əs/) is the Latin transliteration of the Greek name Ἠλίας, which in turn is the Hellenized form of the Hebrew: אליהו, Eliyahu, meaning "Yahweh is my God". Another form of Eliyahu in English is Elijah.

The name belonged most notably to Elijah (/ɨˈlaɪdʒə/), the Hebrew prophet. In the King James Version of the Bible, "Elias" is used in the New Testament as the English translation of the Greek name for this prophet.

Variants
Elia English, Dutch, Italian
Elías Icelandic
Eelis Finnish
Éliás Hungarian
Elías Spanish
Eliáš Czech
Elias (Ἠλίας) Koine Greek
Elias Portuguese
Elias (الیاس) Persian
Eliasz Polish
Élie French
Elijah English, Hebrew
Elijáš Czech
Elis Swedish
Eliyahu (אליהו) Hebrew
Eliyyahu (אֵ֣לִיָּ֔הוּ) Biblical Hebrew, Hebrew
Eljas Finnish
Elliot English
Elliott English
Ellis English
Helias Ecclesiastical Latin
Ilia (Илия) Bulgarian, Church Slavonic, Russian
Ilias (Ηλίας) Modern Greek
Ilie Romanian
Illès Algerian
Ilija (Илија) Croatian, Macedonian, Serbian
Iliya (Илия) Bulgarian
Iliyās (إلياس) Arabic
Illès Hungarian
Illya (Ілля) Ukrainian
Ilya (Илья) Russian
İlyas Turkish
Líggjas Faroese
Elias or Elyas Philippines



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You still don't get it do you?

[_gdemetz]

It's nice that you know a lot of languages, but you still need to improve in your English comprehension.

[_ludwigm]

It's nice that you know a lot of languages, but you still need to improve in your English comprehension.

What do Winnie the Pooh and John the Baptist have in common?
They have the same middle name.

Unfortunately, this can not be translated to Hungarian.

For us, Winnie the Pooh is Micimackó, John the Baptist is Keresztelő János.

You know (or You don't know, You should not) there are different languages.
Most of them don't use middle name.


Edited to add:
I am mighty pleased with my English comprehension.