Elias, or in other words - I've changed the title...

[_gdemetz]

I have to admit that your knowledge of so many languages amazes me. I envy that some. I only speak English, and a little Cebuano.

[_ludwigm]

I have to admit that your knowledge of so many languages amazes me. I envy that some. I only speak English, and a little Cebuano.

Fine.

Then You can check the Cebuano Bible

Ug si Elias, ang Thisbinhon, nga uban sa mga pumoluyo sa Galaad, miingon kang Achab: Ingon nga buhi si Jehova, ang Dios sa Israel, sa kang kinsang atubangan ako nagatindog, walay tun-og bisan ulan niining mga tuiga, kondili sumala sa akong pulong.

and

ug kon buot kamo motoo niini, siya mao si Elias nga magaanhi.

That Bible uses Elias in Old Testament and New Testament. The same name, because it is the same person.

while...

12 Human niini, si Elias mipakita, ug mitugyan sa kapaigoan sa ebanghelyo ni Abraham, miingon nga diha kanamo ug sa among binhi sa tanan nga mga kaliwatan nga mosunod kanamo pagapanalanginan.
13 Human matapos kini nga panan-awon, lain nga mahinungdanon ug mahimayaon nga panan-awon miabut diha kanamo; kay si Elijah ang propeta, kinsa gidala ngadto sa langit nga wala makatilaw og kamatayon, nagbarug diha sa among atubangan, ug miingon:
14 Tan-awa, ang panahon miabut na sa hingpit, nga gipamulong pinaagi sa ba-ba ni Malaquias—nga nagpamatuod nga siya [Elijah] kinahanglan nga ipadala, sa dili pa moabut ang mahinungdanon ug makalilisang nga adlaw sa Ginoo—

Please translate us, miserable non-cebuano-speakers, who Elijah is for the Cebuano speakers?

[_madeleine]

You still don't get it do you? Was John the Baptist's name either Elias of Elijah? No, it was not either one! Therefore, that name carried another meaning with it! So, if you say that it was Elijah (Elias in Greek) with Moses at the mount of Transfiguration, then that's OK. However, if you try to say that John was Elijah or Elias, then that is wrong. He came as an "Elias," or he came in the spirit of "Elias," but he was not Elias, nor was he Elijah. He was John the Baptist.

John the Baptist wasn't a spirit, he was a man. He is the one who fulfilled the prophecy of the one who makes the way for the Lord. Jesus Himself teaches this.

If you mean to say John the Baptist was only the fulfillment of the "spirit of a prophecy", then you will need to explain the difference between fulfilling the spirit of a prophecy, or fulfilling the prophecy itself. I see no difference.

[_gdemetz]

What I am trying to say is this. For example, if I were a bishop, I may ask someone to visit another in the spirit of Christ. That person would neither be Christ or a spirit. He would be only ministering in the spirit of Christ.

[_madeleine]

What I am trying to say is this. For example, if I were a bishop, I may ask someone to visit another in the spirit of Christ. That person would neither be Christ or a spirit. He would be only ministering in the spirit of Christ.

That is not what Jesus said.

[_gdemetz]

He referred to John the Baptist as "Elias." We all know that John the Baptist was not Elias or Elijah. What Christ meant was that John came in the spirit of Elias.

[_madeleine]

He referred to John the Baptist as "Elias." We all know that John the Baptist was not Elias or Elijah. What Christ meant was that John came in the spirit of Elias.

Again, Jesus taught that John the Baptist is the fulfillment of the prophecy in Malachi. There are many prophecies that surround the coming of the Messiah. If they are not fulfilled in Jesus Christ,then He is not the Messiah. It is that simple.

[_gdemetz]

Hello?! Do you think that was the last and the only prophesy fulfilled by Elias, Elijah, or Christ?! You really have a 3rd grade understanding of the Bible.

[_ludwigm]

I only speak English, and a little Cebuano.

Fine.
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See 6th comment above, viewtopic.php?p=582961#p582961 (Some quote from the Cebuano Bible, and from Doktrina ug Mga Pakigsaad 110)

Please translate us, miserable non-cebuano-speakers, who Elijah is for the Cebuano speakers?

So, who is Elijah in Cebuano?

[_gdemetz]

The Cebuano version of the Bible is strange to me. It refers to Elijah, even in the Old Testament as Elias, as if it were translated from Greek?