The LDS members and the Kingdom of God
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I think you are right FrankTalk; he has no depth of understanding. By the way, since, as the scriptures state, Adam was the first man, even though we don't know the exact date of his fall, then, yes, Christianity is the oldest religion!
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gdemetz wrote:I think you are right FrankTalk; he has no depth of understanding. By the way, since, as the scriptures state, Adam was the first man, even though we don't know the exact date of his fall, then, yes, Christianity is the oldest religion!
Good grief man, grow a pair and face the facts.
Adam fell some time after 4,000 BCE as detailed in your scriptural canon. That inconvenient fact puts paid to your unfounded and blatantly incorrect gum bump that Vhristianity is the oldest religion.
Now if you are going to ignore the facts contained within Mormonism as well as those without...well...you really are a pointless poster.
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The Bible dictionary estimate is not canon!!!
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gdemetz wrote:The Bible dictionary estimate is not canon!!!
Then why is the chronology contained within it taught to every Seminary and Institute student as part of the official teaching programmes of the Church?
Adam at 4,000 BCE is the official position of the Church wether you like it or not. Fact.
If you put forward a public view other than that then you are in apostasy.
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That is an estimate, and it is not canon as you stated!!!
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gdemetz wrote:That is an estimate, and it is not canon as you stated!!!
It the official sanctioned chronology as authorised by the Prophet (whom you claim to have no disagreement with) published officially (therefore it is doctrine) within, and as a study aid to, the standard works of the Church.
Now I don't blame you for disagreeing with it, but you should at least recognise that by doing so you are in apostasy and in conflict with your statement about not disagreeing with the Prophet.
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It is not part of the canon of scripture, and the prophet could tell you that himself! Also, it is only an estimate! Anyhow, it does not change the fact that the canon states that Adam was the first man,l and therefore since he was a Christian, that is the oldest religion!
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gdemetz wrote:I think you are right FrankTalk; he has no depth of understanding. By the way, since, as the scriptures state, Adam was the first man, even though we don't know the exact date of his fall, then, yes, Christianity is the oldest religion!
Why should these older religions care what the Bible and it's fables say?
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gdemetz wrote:It is not part of the canon of scripture, and the prophet could tell you that himself! Also, it is only an estimate! Anyhow, it does not change the fact that the canon states that Adam was the first man,l and therefore since he was a Christian, that is the oldest religion!
Adam cannot have been a Christian because...
Christianity was founded in the 1st century by the followers of Jesus of Nazareth who they believed to be the Christ or chosen one of God. The founders of Christianity included those who had been disciples of Jesus such as Peter, Matthew, James and John, as well as others who may never have met him but were either influenced by accounts of his teachings such as the Gospel writers Mark and Luke, or described having mystical revelations of his divine nature, such as Paul of Tarsus who actively encouraged the founding of Christian communities or "churches" after his conversion.
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gdemetz wrote:That is an estimate, and it is not canon as you stated!!!
It could have been as early as 4004 BC . . .
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