The LDS members and the Kingdom of God

[_Franktalk]

Let us look at these words:

Dan 2
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Can we seek the Kingdom of God? Sure we can and we can hold that faith in the Kingdom in our heart as well. But when do we actually step foot in that Kingdom?

It is my belief that the Kingdom already exist in heaven and one day it will also be set up on the earth. The Kings that are talked about in Dan 2:44 are in the last days. Probably in the last seven years as described in the Book of Revelation. It is my belief that we have been in the Kingdom of God and as we develop our spirit the spirit seeks to return home. Even though we really don't know what home is.

So just what are these things that mingle with the seed of men? Could it be the same mingling that occurred in Genesis?

Gen 6
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

It does say that they will return in verse 4. Does this mean that when the restrainer leaves that Angels will come again to the earth to make Nephilim? If this happens before the Kingdom is established on the earth then I guess the Kingdom is not here yet.

[_gdemetz]

The kingdom of God is almost has the same meaning as the church. In fact the church has dormant provisions set up for the time when the saints will rule as a government, and those provisions include some non members.

[_Franktalk]

The kingdom of God is almost has the same meaning as the church. In fact the church has dormant provisions set up for the time when the saints will rule as a government, and those provisions include some non members.

There are many mysteries not revealed and the ones that are do not make a complete picture. This makes for a real interesting vision. Of course to me I am willing to wait and see what is all truth. But the quest for each piece of this most fascinating puzzle allows us to focus on God. I do believe that is the purpose. Even though we have free will we are indeed so easily led. The trick is to know we are and choose the right party to follow.

For those who by pride or by disbelief think them self beyond being led will of course be driven the hardest. I see so many with a ring in their nose yet they tell me I am the one who takes a path based on a false message. They tell me I follow a fairy tale and live in a dream world. Yet this world is the dream and one day I wish to wake and find that I am in the greater reality. Yes I do willingly follow.

[_Themis]

Just what is the Kingdom of God? I am not sure but I suspect it is better than this place. Although some feel this place is just fine. It is my belief that they are settling because of the unknown. This is a view based on safety. For those who will take that leap of faith into the unknown I think there is a huge reward. For those who wish to stay I think they will stay. I wonder if how we treat fear is really the driving force on our path. If we love God more than we fear Him then we look forward to seeing Him. But if we fear the unknown then our own fear and not love drives us. We cling to what we know even in the face of a promise of something better. And when you consider that God allows for free will then those who deny Him He will not allow in His presence. The choice is ours. The fear is ours. We choose what to embrace. We choose what to hold as truth. We have many paths that we can take. All of this is supplied for us. We are born into this world of choices. If we embrace this world I think we stay here. If we seek another then doors are opened for us.

I asked a simple question and it causes you to go off in another direction simply asserting things again without backing them up, and not even answering the question. I wonder why I shouldn't take a leap of faith and believe Wicca or Islam, Hinduism, etc?

[_Franktalk]

Luke 9

62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Just as it takes a leap of faith to accept Christ it takes a leap of faith and a single focus to leave this world. It is up to us.

[_Themis]

Luke 9

62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Just as it takes a leap of faith to accept Christ it takes a leap of faith and a single focus to leave this world. It is up to us.

The same can be said of any religion like Wicca. Will you be taking that leap of faith soon.

[_gdemetz]

In the first place, there are no older religions than Christianity since animal sacrifices to point to the redemption of Christ were performed since the days of Adam. That was just a somewhat successful attempt by the left to rewrite history which they got away with to a certain extent due to the long passage of time and lack of overwhelming evidence. Also, other religions have books, but none comparable to the Bible.

[_Drifting]

In the first place, there are no older religions than Christianity since animal sacrifices to point to the redemption of Christ were performed since the days of Adam. That was just a somewhat successful attempt by the left to rewrite history which they got away with to a certain extent due to the long passage of time and lack of overwhelming evidence. Also, other religions have books, but none comparable to the Bible.

Your assertion is demonstrably untrue and has been shown to be untrue on this very board.

The Quran isn't comparable to the Bible?
The Book of Mormon isn't comparable to the Bible?

[_Themis]

In the first place, there are no older religions than Christianity since animal sacrifices to point to the redemption of Christ were performed since the days of Adam. That was just a somewhat successful attempt by the left to rewrite history which they got away with to a certain extent due to the long passage of time and lack of overwhelming evidence. Also, other religions have books, but none comparable to the Bible.

Your assertion is demonstrably untrue and has been shown to be untrue on this very board.

The Quran isn't comparable to the Bible?
The Book of Mormon isn't comparable to the Bible?

He shows a lot of ignorance of Eastern religions, but then that is fairly common here in the west.

[_gdemetz]

It only seems untrue to you because you apparently don't accept the Book of Moses, as well as the Bible, which records these sacrifices to be true.