LittleNipper wrote:Genesis 1:6-8 Day 2 evening to morning God split up the waters with an area He named "Heavens." Some waters He placed above the "Heavens" and some waters were placed below. Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
6 And God saith, `Let an expanse be in the midst of the waters, and let it be separating between waters and waters.'
7 And God maketh the expanse, and it separateth between the waters which [are] under the expanse, and the waters which [are] above the expanse: and it is so.
8 And God calleth to the expanse `Heavens;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning -- day second.
Hi LittleNipper.
I'm starting to get that you are going to post every verse from the Bible on this board. A very ambitious endeavour. It will take you month's. Very soon, people here will stop reading them (most of us have our own copies of the Bible). Are you really sure you want to do this?
You are not telling us anything new.
Well, my feeling is that most have not read the entire Bible nor had it explained. Here is a perfect opportunity to read and hear the Word and discuss what one gets out of each verse, passages and chapter. Yes, it will take months --- at least; however, the entire Bible will be absorbed from start to finish and the track will be the structure of the Bible itself. I for one would would rather try to understand what God has to say than to listen to people jumping from subject to subject without any rhyme or reason and likely missing the finer points that are likely to separate the true sheep from the goats. I want everyone thinking and not just tossing out select "party line" verses...
LittleNipper wrote:In Genesis 1:2, we are told that the dust God created was still just a cloud. And that water God created was all collected in one place where God could float above it in total darkness. God had not created life to live in the dust cloud or in the water yet.
If you read a little more carefully, you will see that God did not create the water.
The water comes into the story already existing.
There is no creation about it.
A good deal of the creation is described as "separating" things that are already there. For instance, God separates the waters and the earth appears, apparently because it was already under the waters in the first place.
God creates day and night by separating the light from the dark.
And so on.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
Well, my feeling is that most have not read the entire Bible nor had it explained. Here is a perfect opportunity to read and hear the Word and discuss what one gets out of each verse, passages and chapter. Yes, it will take months --- at least; however, the entire Bible will be absorbed from start to finish and the track will be the structure of the Bible itself. I for one would would rather try to understand what God has to say than to listen to people jumping from subject to subject without any rhyme or reason and likely missing the finer points that are likely to separate the true sheep from the goats. I want everyone thinking and not just tossing out select "party line" verses...
If the Bible is not subject to personal interpretation, why should I give any value to your explainations?
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
MCB wrote:I have been offline the past few days. Laptop broke.
I work on computers 12 hours a day. I used to think they were dumb, mindless tools like a shovel or a box full of light switches. Lately, I'm starting to wonder if they contain some malevolent force. They always seem to know when I need them the most and crash at that precise moment.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
That is why, before the Reformation, rabbis and other Biblical scholars spent their careers in Biblical exegesis-- it requires a lot of scholarship to understand it. And that is the reason why we have problems with Mormonism-- once the uneducated start running with it, we have all sorts of permutations of the Judaeo-Christian tradition. I have seen this complaint expressed in an 1840's Catholic publication, as well as Howard Bloom's "American Religion," from an agnostic Jewish perspective.
They always seem to know when I need them the most and crash at that precise moment.
Well, the puter store person said that I ought to be glad the laptop died, given what I was running. I told them what I am doing, and suddenly the interpersonal environment lost its reserve.
Huckelberry said: I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.
LittleNipper wrote:In Genesis 1:2, we are told that the dust God created was still just a cloud. And that water God created was all collected in one place where God could float above it in total darkness. God had not created life to live in the dust cloud or in the water yet.
If you read a little more carefully, you will see that God did not create the water.
The water comes into the story already existing.
There is no creation about it.
A good deal of the creation is described as "separating" things that are already there. For instance, God separates the waters and the earth appears, apparently because it was already under the waters in the first place.
God creates day and night by separating the light from the dark.
And so on.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Actually, water is matter --- as is rock. In Genesis 1:1 God creates Space and Matter ---- Heavens and Earth
LittleNipper wrote: Who says I'm interpreting anything. I am a literalist. I simply restate the obvious in a way that may make others investigate for themselves...
Well, what you may see as obvious is probably just your own interpretation and may seem a little hubristic to everyone else. Remember, most (if not all) of the members on this board have been through their own journey of religious discovery. Each coming away from that experience with their own interpretations that are just as valid as yours.
When you are new to this board, it's better to read and learn a little before presuming to teach.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
LittleNipper wrote: Who says I'm interpreting anything. I am a literalist. I simply restate the obvious in a way that may make others investigate for themselves...
Well, what you may see as obvious is probably just your own interpretation and may seem a little hubristic to everyone else. Remember, most (if not all) of the members on this board have been through their own journey of religious discovery. Each coming away from that experience with their own interpretations that are just as valid as yours.
When you are new to this board, it's better to read and learn a little before presuming to teach.
Oh, let him preach Quasi. We need a Bible literalist to balance out gdemetz and Themis. If we could get a Quran literalist opening threads and posting the whole of the Quran, then I think that would be a bit much. But we aren't there yet.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
I told them what I am doing, and suddenly the interpersonal environment lost its reserve. 