Fulfilled Prophecy?

[_SteelHead]

What god do you recommend I humble myself before? Exu? Zeus? Allah? Zarathustra?

[_son of Ishmael]

But if my heart cries while singing amazing grace then THAT is evidence of redemption?

No. I said if you feel what he felt. I know this is so hard for you. But feel free to make a joke of what I say. That it seems comes easy to you. I wonder if the two are connected. You taking this to be a joke and you not humbling yourself before God. Just who do you humble yourself? I suspect that platform you stand on has just enough room for one. The problem is the world is filled with many who stand on similar platforms all trying to make their platform just slightly higher than the next. I can see a sea of them. You have many friends.

The reason I was being flippant is that I have come to the conclusion that you can’t trust feelings. We are emotional beings and our emotions get away from us from time to time. When I was a TBM I too had many “spiritual experiences” and knew with “every fiber of my being” that the church was true. The problem is that I met a lot of other people of different faiths that had had similar spiritual experiences and knew with every fiber of their beings that those beliefs were true. I spent 28 months in South West Asia saw plenty of people who were so sure that their religious beliefs were true they blew themselves and others up to prove it.

[_gdemetz]

Try planting the seed and nourishing it as the Book of Mormon teaches, and see what happens!

[_Drifting]

Frank, when hundreds and hundreds of people were spiritually moved to tears by the faith promoting tales of Paul H. Dunn is that evidence of redemption?

[_gdemetz]

I'll dare to answer for FrankTalk. No, it's just a sign that they were touched by a story they believed to be true.

[_Drifting]

I'll dare to answer for FrankTalk. No, it's just a sign that they were touched by a story they believed to be true.

Exactly.

[_gdemetz]

However, I think it is a mistake to discount true conversions and place them in the same classification as stories which bring warm feelings. Not all warm feelings are not true manifestations of the Spirit.

[_Drifting]

However, I think it is a mistake to discount true conversions and place them in the same classification as stories which bring warm feelings. Not all warm feelings are not true manifestations of the Spirit.

How do you differentiate between which warm feelings are or are not manifestations of the Spirit?

[_Franktalk]

It is hard to tell devotion apart in some cases.

Acts 5:34-42 (King James Version)

34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.
41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

When in doubt about some new idea that we come across we should be patient and see how things play out. To have instant judgment most times leads to error. If we trust God and see His work around us then let that work manifest to the point it becomes obvious. Always good advice.

[_Drifting]

It is hard to tell devotion apart in some cases.

When in doubt about some new idea that we come across we should be patient and see how things play out. To have instant judgment most times leads to error. If we trust God and see His work around us then let that work manifest to the point it becomes obvious. Always good advice.

How do we trust God if we don't know from whence the warm feelings came from?