Fulfilled Prophecy?

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, there is one big thing that you obviously haven't considered. The Bible prophesies of the Book of Mormon as well as other scriptures coming forth from the earth! I suggest that you read the Book of Mormon again and seriously accept Moroni's challenge.

[_Drifting]

Nipper, there is one big thing that you obviously haven't considered. The Bible prophesies of the Book of Mormon as well as other scriptures coming forth from the earth! I suggest that you read the Book of Mormon again and seriously accept Moroni's challenge.

Why does Moroni's challenge work the same as a self fulfilling prophesy?

If you follow it and get a feeling that it isn't true then that feeling is wrong.
If you follow it and get a feeling that it is true then that feeling is correct, even if the feeling is exactly the same as in the above scenario.

Hmmm...

For instance.
I have a Nephew who is ten years old (baptised member of the Church).
He adores Harry Potter.
In fact he adores it so much he believes it to be true.
Unbeknown to his parents he decided to pray about its truthfulness. In his mind the Holy Ghost confirmed to him that it was true because he got the exact same feeling that he got when he prayed about the Book of Mormon.
When he told his parents they tried to explain why Harry Potter couldn't possibly be true. Magic isn't real, things like that don't happen in the real world, there is no scientific support for the events in Harry Potter, its just a fictional tale, you got that feeling because you wanted it to be true etc etc. he turns to them perplexed and said "well then the Book of Mormon can't be true...". They were stumped and said as much when they related the tale to me.

[_Albion]

It is a false proposition since Mormons will not accept a negative or non response as having any legitimacy. Obviously, if you don't come to the same conclusion as they do, then it's because you didn't pray hard enough or you weren't sincere enough. Actually the so-called promise is to determine if it is "not true" so perhaps the imagined burning in the bosom is really an indication of its falseness and its untrue nature.

[_son of Ishmael]

Nipper, there is one big thing that you obviously haven't considered. The Bible prophesies of the Book of Mormon as well as other scriptures coming forth from the earth! I suggest that you read the Book of Mormon again and seriously accept Moroni's challenge.

Why does Moroni's challenge work the same as a self fulfilling prophesy?

If you follow it and get a feeling that it isn't true then that feeling is wrong.
If you follow it and get a feeling that it is true then that feeling is correct, even if the feeling is exactly the same as in the above scenario.

Hmmm...

For instance.
I have a Nephew who is ten years old (baptised member of the Church).
He adores Harry Potter.
In fact he adores it so much he believes it to be true.
Unbeknown to his parents he decided to pray about its truthfulness. In his mind the Holy Ghost confirmed to him that it was true because he got the exact same feeling that he got when he prayed about the Book of Mormon.
When he told his parents they tried to explain why Harry Potter couldn't possibly be true. Magic isn't real, things like that don't happen in the real world, there is no scientific support for the events in Harry Potter, its just a fictional tale, you got that feeling because you wanted it to be true etc etc. he turns to them perplexed and said "well then the Book of Mormon can't be true...". They were stumped and said as much when they related the tale to me.

Well the only possible explanation is that Harry Potter IS true! Sweet!

[_LittleNipper]

Nipper, there is one big thing that you obviously haven't considered. The Bible prophesies of the Book of Mormon as well as other scriptures coming forth from the earth! I suggest that you read the Book of Mormon again and seriously accept Moroni's challenge.

The Bible simply declares itself as coming from God. It doesn't ask anyone to read it and pray for God to prove anything.

[_Tobin]

Nipper, there is one big thing that you obviously haven't considered. The Bible prophesies of the Book of Mormon as well as other scriptures coming forth from the earth! I suggest that you read the Book of Mormon again and seriously accept Moroni's challenge.

The Bible simply declares itself as coming from God. It doesn't ask anyone to read it and pray for God to prove anything.

Of course it doesn't. It's a Book. Books don't speak. Neither does the Book of Mormon.

[_Quasimodo]

The Bible simply declares itself as coming from God. It doesn't ask anyone to read it and pray for God to prove anything.

The Bible does not declare itself as coming from God. There is no preface to the Bible, signed by God, that states that it is true and without dispute.

[_gdemetz]

Right! They don't want to quote the Bible except if it happens to agree with their man made doctrine! They prefer to believe the teachings of false prophets like the silly "priesthood of all believers" doctrine which is nowhere to be found in the Bible! Instead, it is the true restored doctrine which is found such as this one:

"And when they had ordained them elders in every church..." Acts 14:23!

[_Albion]

Scriptural references, please, that predict the Book of Mormon...and remember, I know before you give them what you will offer. Just want them to be on record in all their falseness.

[_Investigator]

However, I think it is a mistake to discount true conversions and place them in the same classification as stories which bring warm feelings. Not all warm feelings are not true manifestations of the Spirit.

But some are?

How do we know the difference?

(How do I know the difference?)