Book of Mormon a Stolen Novel?

[_LittleNipper]

Where, in the scriptures, does it tell us that we need to clasp hands in a certain way whilst saying certain specific words in order to gain entrance to heaven?

Man looketh on the outward appearance but the LORD sees the heart. I never suggested that there was a specific form of prayer. Truth and honesty is what God trspects.

[_Drifting]

Where, in the scriptures, does it tell us that we need to clasp hands in a certain way whilst saying certain specific words in order to gain entrance to heaven?

Man looketh on the outward appearance but the LORD sees the heart. I never suggested that there was a specific form of prayer. Truth and honesty is what God trspects.

Whilst I agree with you, Mormonism teaches it is essential to know these things.
It is nice though to have it confirmed that there is no scriptural basis for those rituals.

[_ludwigm]

I never suggested that there was a specific form of prayer.

You doesn't count, Matthew did suggested it.

9. After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
... 11, 12, 13 ... Amen.

He has suggested the countenance:

16. Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast.

And he has suggested a lot more:

31. Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32. For after all these things do the Gentiles seek

(See WOW and BYU dress code...)


Edited to add:

1. And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
2. And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
...

[_gdemetz]

Ludwigm, you don't seem happy. I thought that you would be happy when I corrected that Jefferson misspelling that seemed to bother you so much! Anyhow, he's right, that was an example of prayer. Christ also taught not to use vain repetitions as the heathen do (the Catholics also). In other words we shouldn't repeat the same prayer over and over again since it then becomes a vain repetition.

[_ludwigm]

Christ also taught not to use vain repetitions

Where? When? To whom?


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From this point on this is not a real answer, as I don't care Your comments.
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I thought that you would be happy when I corrected that Jefferson misspelling that seemed to bother you so much!

I am happy that You were able to do it. You have ascended one grade in my evaluating system. (From two to three in a scale of 0-100)

... as the heathen do (the Catholics also).

I check if I should chafe.
I am Catholic by baptism (I remember he event, I was two day old, and got a cold because of that two drop of water.) Since age of 12, I am inactive Catholic. In Mormon vocabulary it should be said less active. Member on the rolls.
Am I Heathen? If atheist and heathen are synonyms then yes.
So You did insult me twice in one sentence. Fie!

In other words we shouldn't repeat the same prayer over and over again since it then becomes a vain repetition.

"I know the church is true and Joseph Smith was a true prophet"
Sounds familiar?

Ludwigm, you don't seem happy.

I am. Don't let You deceived by the tinsel.

[_son of Ishmael]

In other words we shouldn't repeat the same prayer over and over again since it then becomes a vain repetition.

"I know the church is true and Joseph Smith was a true prophet"
Sounds familiar?

+1

[_gdemetz]

Christ stated, IN REGARDS TO PRAYER AND NOT TESTIMONY, to his audience as recorded in Matthew 6:7:

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

[_Drifting]

Christ stated, IN REGARDS TO PRAYER AND NOT TESTIMONY, to his audience as recorded in Matthew 6:7:

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

So is the repetitious nature of the Sacrament prayer against this instruction?

[_ludwigm]

Christ stated, IN REGARDS TO PRAYER AND NOT TESTIMONY, to his audience as recorded in Matthew 6:7:

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

Then, in Matthew 6:9-13, two verse later, he commands/requests: pray ye
"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..."

As far as I know, "pray ye" in English is imperative mood.
The imperative mood (abbreviated IMP) expresses commands or requests as a grammatical mood. These commands or requests urge the audience to act a certain way. It also may signal a prohibition, permission, or any other kind of exhortation.
Don't forget, I am a miserable non-english. I know the language by written rules only.

by the way You did answered something (without quote... forget it)
You have reached level four. (You know the scale...)

[_subgenius]

Christ stated, IN REGARDS TO PRAYER AND NOT TESTIMONY, to his audience as recorded in Matthew 6:7:

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

So is the repetitious nature of the Sacrament prayer against this instruction?

clearly there is a difference between a vain repetition and just a repetition.....(hint: vain being the keyword)
your reasoning is flawed.