Bible verse by verse

[_LittleNipper]

Genesis 4:1-7 Chapter 4 we see that Adam had relations with Eve and Cain was born. Eve said that God let her have this child and later she had another that was called Abel. Abel herded sheep and Cain farmed the soil. And it came that Cain brought a present of his labor to the Lord. Abel also brought female firstlings from his flock. The Lord looked upon Abel's present but ignored Cain's present. This upset Cain and he was dejected. And God ask Cain why he became this way and chided him. The Lord told Cain that if he did what was right there would be acceptance, but if not correct at the first, there was still a live offering by him to do with as he wished, because he was given dominion over it.

1 And the man knew Eve his wife, and she conceiveth and beareth Cain, and saith, `I have gotten a man by Jehovah;'

2 and she addeth to bear his brother, even Abel. And Abel is feeding a flock, and Cain hath been servant of the ground.

3 And it cometh to pass at the end of days that Cain bringeth from the fruit of the ground a present to Jehovah;

4 and Abel, he hath brought, he also, from the female firstlings of his flock, even from their fat ones; and Jehovah looketh unto Abel and unto his present,

5 and unto Cain and unto his present He hath not looked; and it is very displeasing to Cain, and his countenance is fallen.

6 And Jehovah saith unto Cain, `Why hast thou displeasure? and why hath thy countenance fallen?

7 Is there not, if thou dost well, acceptance? and if thou dost not well, at the opening a sin-offering is crouching, and unto thee its desire, and thou rulest over it.'

[_gdemetz]

In the Hebrew, the word which is used is Elohim which is plural for God, meaning Gods! Even in the English, it is translated "let US." I repeat, there is no such teaching or even the word trinity found in the Bible. The oneness is only a figurative expression, and it is that oneness which can correctly be worshiped as God, or more correctly stated, as the Bible states: "Godhead!"

[_LittleNipper]

In the Hebrew, the word which is used is Elohim which is plural for God, meaning Gods! Even in the English, it is translated "let US." I repeat, there is no such teaching or even the word trinity found in the Bible. The oneness is only a figurative expression, and it is that oneness which can correctly be worshiped as God, or more correctly stated, as the Bible states: "Godhead!"

You need to consider a lesson in Hebrew. The following site should help you understand, if that is the desire of your heart...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_ ... inity.html

[_Drifting]

In the Hebrew, the word which is used is Elohim which is plural for God, meaning Gods! Even in the English, it is translated "let US." I repeat, there is no such teaching or even the word trinity found in the Bible. The oneness is only a figurative expression, and it is that oneness which can correctly be worshiped as God, or more correctly stated, as the Bible states: "Godhead!"

Interesting then that, in the Mormon temple movie, Mormon God is referred to as "Elohim". Why do you think that is?

[_ludwigm]

In the Hebrew, the word which is used is Elohim which is plural for God, meaning Gods! Even in the English, it is translated "let US." I repeat, there is no such teaching or even the word trinity found in the Bible. The oneness is only a figurative expression, and it is that oneness which can correctly be worshiped as God, or more correctly stated, as the Bible states: "Godhead!"

Interesting then that, in the Mormon temple movie, Mormon God is referred to as "Elohim". Why do you think that is?

You, Drifting, many times take the lead over me. I am not jealous. Do it...

[_Drifting]

You, Drifting, many times take the lead over me. I am not jealous. Do it...

Ludders, you are a top bloke and I am honoured to merely follow in your footsteps...

[_LittleNipper]

Genesis 4:8-15 Cain says to Abel, "Let's go out in the field." And while in the field Cain flipped out on his brother killing him. God asks Cain where is his brother. Cain says he has no clue where his brother is... Is he to keep track of him? Gods says, "What have you done?" God even hears the voice of Abel crying from the ground. Cain is cursed by the ground which has absorded Abel's blood. Cain's tilling will be worthless. Cain will wander and always fear. Cain pleads that his punishment is more than he can take --- eveyone who sees him will want to destroy him. God makes a stipulation that anyone who kills Cain will receive 7 times worse than Cain. God places a warning seal on Cain for all to see.

8 And Cain saith unto Abel his brother, [`Let us go into the field;'] and it cometh to pass in their being in the field, that Cain riseth up against Abel his brother, and slayeth him.

9 And Jehovah saith unto Cain, `Where [is] Abel thy brother?' and he saith, `I have not known; my brother's keeper -- I?'

10 And He saith, `What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood is crying unto Me from the ground;

11 and now, cursed [art] thou from the ground, which hath opened her mouth to receive the blood of thy brother from thy hand;

12 when thou tillest the ground, it doth not add to give its strength to thee -- a wanderer, even a trembling one, thou art in the earth.'

13 And Cain saith unto Jehovah, `Greater is my punishment than to be borne;

14 lo, Thou hast driven me to-day from off the face of the ground, and from Thy face I am hid; and I have been a wanderer, even a trembling one, in the earth, and it hath been -- every one finding me doth slay me.'

15 And Jehovah saith to him, `Therefore -- of any slayer of Cain sevenfold it is required;' and Jehovah setteth to Cain a token that none finding him doth slay him.

[_gdemetz]

One name for our Heavenly Father is Elohim, which implies God of gods.

[_Samantabhadra]

I will never understand why the fundies place so much emphasis on Genesis. Not to say that it is completely useless or anything, but really.

[_gdemetz]

Yea, Genesis cries for a true prophets interpretation. My grandfather, rest his soul, believed that Eve was actually made literally from Adam's rib, and he dies believing that a man had one less rib than a woman.