Adam, first man circa 4,000 bc....?

[_krose]

Radiation and quantum mechanics, like global warming and evolution, is a liberal secularist conspiracy.

Damn liberals.

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

[_Franktalk]

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

You are right, the list of facts that a liberal expresses is much larger than the list of known facts that I have. So there is a bias to the quantity. Now we could argue over the quality of those so called facts. But it all comes down to world views and how well someone accepts the assumptions of science. That road is well traveled.

This whole subject is just bait. This little fishy will just seek a morsel to feed on somewhere else.

[_LittleNipper]

The Bible is a package deal. One either believes all of it or will reject it all eventually.

Umm, huh? Virtually everyone believes that Biblical writings contain at least some historical material. You propose that everyone will eventually come to believe that it is all historical?

This is regarding those who believe that there is a God.

[_just me]

Umm, huh? Virtually everyone believes that Biblical writings contain at least some historical material. You propose that everyone will eventually come to believe that it is all historical?

This is regarding those who believe that there is a God.

Still confusing. Does that include those who worship other than the Abrahamic god?

[_LittleNipper]

PS> THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THE FLOOD HAPPENED AND SO THEY DO NOT SEE THAT AS POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION!

You already posted that they determined that there was no major disruption. A global flood would have created major disruption. Since they don't see any, their lack of belief in the Bible is irrelevant.

The Bible is a package deal. One either believes all of it or will reject it all eventually. I have found as one begins to accept the Bible, one eventually comes to embrace it all --- though it might take some time...

I have found more people taking it less literally. It doesn't take much of an open mind to see there was no global flood and that humans have been around much longer then 6000 years.

I don't know what destruction one would needs to see ---- the Grand Canyon, the formation of the Alps, massive meteor strike craters, Massive coal fields, massive oil fields, massive fossil graveyards, the appearance that the earth is billions of years old when it is under 10,000 years. Just those few things mentioned point to a MAJOR disruption. I never posted that there were no major disruptions.
Matthew 7:13-14 I take this literally
I would assume that you and most others do not ----- that would seem to prove the point correct
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[_jo1952]

What is the attraction of old pottery; and only fragments at that?

I would much rather date Frank.

[_Themis]

Radiation and quantum mechanics, like global warming and evolution, is a liberal secularist conspiracy.

not really, they just require and rely on much being taken on faith.

Not really if you take the time with an open mind to actually learn the science.

[_Themis]

I don't know what destruction one would needs to see ---- the Grand Canyon, the formation of the Alps, massive meteor strike craters, Massive coal fields, massive oil fields, massive fossil graveyards, the appearance that the earth is billions of years old when it is under 10,000 years. Just those few things mentioned point to a MAJOR disruption. I never posted that there were no major disruptions.
Matthew 7:13-14 I take this literally
I would assume that you and most others do not ----- that would seem to prove the point correct
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Even a little common sense will tell one it is much older then 10000 years. The grand canyon does not point to a major disruption, but a slow steady erosion over millions of years. Same with mountain ranges like the alps. Look at the Appalachians. They are much older and much more worn down then say the Rockies. They can even measure how some ranges are currently growing like the Himalayas. The coal fields are millions of years old and take that long to create them. The problem here is not science but those who reject what doesn't fit what they want to believe.

[_Themis]

What is the attraction of old pottery; and only fragments at that?

I would much rather date Frank.

You can do both. Christian have a lot of interest in history as well, or at least some do.

[_jo1952]

What is the attraction of old pottery; and only fragments at that?

I would much rather date Frank.

You can do both. Christian have a lot of interest in history as well, or at least some do.

I'd still rather not go out with old pottery fragments.....