Why Do LDS Dismiss the Greater Part of the New Testament?

[_jo1952]

One or two immediate thoughts. Firstly, in typical Mormon self righteousness you imply that you have some special spiritual insight denied to others not of your persuasion...a premise I reject completely so please avoid the condescension of speaking to a mere Christian like me in that manner. Secondly, again in typical Mormon fashion you downgrade Jesus declaring " Jesus did not reveal all truth". Jesus is all truth...God incarnate. Thirdly, only one level in heaven no matter how you twist scripture to demonstrate otherwise. (Please don't quote your proof text, I know what it is and I reject the Mormon interpretation of it). Fourthly, your Mormon third degree of heaven will be an awfully empty place if it is relying on Mormons becoming perfect through their own efforts. We become one with the Father through his free gift of grace in Jesus...Jesus' righteousness or perfection imputed to us through faith by grace alone. You can't be partially born of the spirit...you either are or you are not. Fifthly, I am quite capable of making my own posts without Drifting's input....as I am sure he is without mine. Insults are hardly becoming of someone working on perfection. Sixth, I have read Smith's version of his supposed vision (more than one version actually) and think it a dishonest to imply that he was talking only about RCs in his view. Perhaps there is yet another version of his first vision story I am unaware of where he is specific as you suggest....otherwise my point stands.

Albion,

Are you one of the Elect?

Blessings,

jo

[_Albion]

I claim nothing except being a sinner saved by grace.

[_jo1952]

I claim nothing except being a sinner saved by grace.

Dearest Albion,

YOU ARE A SON OF GOD!!!! SOME DAY YOU WILL BE ONE WITH OUR SAVIOR, Jesus Christ. YOU WILL SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD, RETURN TO HIS PRESENCE, AND BE ONE WITH THE FATHER!!!

I love you,

jo

[Guest]

I believe in almost universal salvation. I think God has a plan to save us all and one way or another it will happen. So all of our differences at one point or another will amount to nothing in the big picture view. So as sure as I am about some things I have been led to I know that we all will be led to the truth we need. It may not be in this life of flesh but in time all will be as planned. In time we will all see the truth in the will of the Father. In doing His will we will find true peace and happiness.

[_gdemetz]

Albion, I think you will be saved also, to a lower heaven, but the sad thing is that you have a chance to go to the highest heaven, or the third heaven, if you will just open your eyes more!

[Guest]

Albion, I think you will be saved also, to a lower heaven, but the sad thing is that you have a chance to go to the highest heaven, or the third heaven, if you will just open your eyes more!

Unless he is an African with black skin.
In which case he can only be a servant in Mormon's highest heaven, right?

Or unless he has a temple marriage already, in which case he is guarenteed entrance to Mormonism's highest heaven (providing he can avoid shedding innocent blood) right?

Also, if he's a non Mormon he needs to do a little bit more than open his eyes doesn't he? You know, like paying 10% of all his income, learning secret names and handshakes etc right?

[_Albion]

I'd rather accept the surety of the promise in Christ than the "chance" offered in Mormonism.

[_gdemetz]

That's really not logical, Albion. Just think about it. The first principal in Mormon Doctrine is FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the very first step! So, you would have nothing to lose, and then you would be able to progress to a higher kingdom!

[_jo1952]

That's really not logical, Albion. Just think about it. The first principal in Mormon Doctrine is FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the very first step! So, you would have nothing to lose, and then you would be able to progress to a higher kingdom!

Hi GD,

Albion is not ready to understand things on a spiritual level. However, someday he will be ready. His journey has not yet taken him that far; regardless of which religion he is currently hanging his hat on. The moment he opens his mind, the Holy Spirit will take advantage of that opening and will give him as much knowledge as he will be able to bear at that time.

Blessings,

jo

[_Drifting]

That's really not logical, Albion. Just think about it. The first principal in Mormon Doctrine is FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the very first step! So, you would have nothing to lose, and then you would be able to progress to a higher kingdom!

Providing he pays ten percent of his income and learns some sacred handshakes etc, right?