Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?

[_Mittens]

Your quote mining is very poor MIttens, and I am sure that they would not appreciate you trying to tell them what they believe, especially since you state it falsely! They clarified those statements by saying "God head"! let me state this one more time clearly so that there will be no doubt! WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE! WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE Bible TEACHES, AND THAT IS THE GODHEAD! WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL THE MARBLES ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER BY SOME MYSTICAL BS SUBSTANCE!!!

In Evangelic Christianity, God, Godhead, Substance, Essence and Being all have same meaning, that's wht there always singular and persons is always plural

an example in the Bible would be thin in Genesis

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over

Notice God "singular" let "us" and "our" plural"

[_ludwigm]

In Evangelic Christianity, God, Godhead, Substance, Essence and Being all have same meaning, that's wht there always singular and persons is always plural

an example in the Bible would be thin in Genesis

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over

Notice God "singular" let "us" and "our" plural"

For me, it is a simple regal plural.

[_Drifting]

Your quote mining is very poor MIttens, and I am sure that they would not appreciate you trying to tell them what they believe, especially since you state it falsely! They clarified those statements by saying "God head"! let me state this one more time clearly so that there will be no doubt! WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE! WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE Bible TEACHES, AND THAT IS THE GODHEAD! WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL THE MARBLES ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER BY SOME MYSTICAL BS SUBSTANCE!!!

So you're not Christian after all...thanks for clearing that up....

[_gdemetz]

Mittens...hello?! Of course it's plural! The three marbles I mentioned were plural too, but they are not all of the same silly mystical substance! Mittens, what is it that you don't understand about what I stated?! If you ever here me use the word trinity, trust me, it will definitely not mean the same thing as if you used the term! If I use it, it will not mean the the Godhead is bound together by some mystical glue to make them magically all one as taught in the false apostate creed! It will mean that they are three distinct different personages who make up one Godhead, or God if you want to call it that!

[_Mittens]

Mittens...hello?! Of course it's plural! The three marbles I mentioned were plural too, but they are not all of the same silly mystical substance! Mittens, what is it that you don't understand about what I stated?! If you ever here me use the word trinity, trust me, it will definitely not mean the same thing as if you used the term! If I use it, it will not mean the the Godhead is bound together by some mystical glue to make them magically all one as taught in the false apostate creed! It will mean that they are three distinct different personages who make up one Godhead, or God if you want to call it that!

The problem with using the word substance you need to know the Latin meaning for this word


Latin Word List » Substantia


Definition: Substance, essence, means of subsistence, property.

The Latin Word Substantia has many meanings, mainly: substance, essence, means of subsistence, property.

Our Latin Fathers used this term to mean God The Father , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit shared the same property or Family which is God or Godhead. So three separate and distinct persons represent the One God, God head, Substance , Being or Essence. Always singular yet persons is alwasys plural or three.


gdemetz you need to know what your talking about when pontificating

[_gdemetz]

Mittens, you have just given a very sickly apologetic excuse for the so called trinity! It is you that doesn't know what you are talking about! I have been knowing for years what the false apostate creed of the trinity teaches as does About.com Christianity!

"The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" MEANING "THREE ARE ONE." THE TRINITY EXPRESSES THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ONE BEING MADE UP OF THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO EXIST IS COEQUAL ESSENCE AND CO ETERNAL COMMUNION AS THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT."

Note the ONE BEING made up of three distinct persons!!! The truth is what I have been stating and what the Mormon prophets have stated all along, and that is that there are THREE DISTINCT BEINGS in one Godhead!!!!!!!

[_Mittens]

Mittens, you have just given a very sickly apologetic excuse for the so called trinity! It is you that doesn't know what you are talking about! I have been knowing for years what the false apostate creed of the trinity teaches as does About.com Christianity!

"The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" MEANING "THREE ARE ONE." THE TRINITY EXPRESSES THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ONE BEING MADE UP OF THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO EXIST IS COEQUAL ESSENCE AND CO ETERNAL COMMUNION AS THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT."

Note the ONE BEING made up of three distinct persons!!! The truth is what I have been stating and what the Mormon prophets have stated all along, and that is that there are THREE DISTINCT BEINGS in one Godhead!!!!!!!

Wrong again, Joseph Smith taught

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).


Three separate personages — Father, Son, and Holy Ghost — comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods.

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Chapter: 44
Page: 576

[_gdemetz]

Hello Mittens?!? You are apparently understanding very little of what I am stating! Yes, that is what I have been stating! They are three Gods which make up the one Godhead (or God) which we worship!!!

[_Mittens]

[quote="gdemetz"]Hello Mittens?!? You are apparently understanding very little of what I am stating! Yes, that is what I have been stating! They are three Gods which make up the one Godhead (or God) which we worship!!![/quote

Why does McConkie say you only worship the Father in his BYU speach, is God the author of confusion or is Mormonism completely void of God





Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE
Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.

We worship the Father and him only and no one else.
We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.

Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father.
After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and
intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent--after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body.

http://speeches.BYU.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843


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[_gdemetz]

Of course, we worship the Father and pray to the Father! That is what Christ taught, isn't it?!?