The magic "twinkling" of Apostate Christendom
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Christ grace is a free gift for us from which all men will be resurrected no matter what! Those who truly believe in Him by following His teachings and keeping His commandments become justified by His grace for a celestial resurrection. They become sanctified by the Holy Spirit and speak by the power of the Holy Ghost, as angels do, and can dwell in the presence of Heavenly Father.
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Resurrection is only a partial salvation and since there is no support for any Celestial kingdom, your interpretation of Corinthians 15 not withstanding, there simply is no support for you contention in scripture.
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PS. The failure of your argument is that it is faith that justifies (still awaiting your definition). Justification means being made right in the eyes of God...being seen as if we have not and do not sin and it comes by faith FROM God because of his grace. If it is only resurrection that is given in response to faith, how come there are those who are resurrected without the demonstration of any kind of faith and who are not justified before God because of it? I agree everyone will be resurrected but what is the point of faith in your model if you get it anyway?
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gdemetz wrote:Christ grace is a free gift for us from which all men will be resurrected no matter what! Those who truly believe in Him by following His teachings and keeping His commandments become justified by His grace for a celestial resurrection. They become sanctified by the Holy Spirit and speak by the power of the Holy Ghost, as angels do, and can dwell in the presence of Heavenly Father.
Do you believe that secret handshakes are required to gain admittance to the CK? YES/NO
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Drifting wrote:gdemetz wrote:Christ grace is a free gift for us from which all men will be resurrected no matter what! Those who truly believe in Him by following His teachings and keeping His commandments become justified by His grace for a celestial resurrection. They become sanctified by the Holy Spirit and speak by the power of the Holy Ghost, as angels do, and can dwell in the presence of Heavenly Father.
Do you believe that secret handshakes are required to gain admittance to the CK? YES/NO
doesn't the answer preclude itself here? If you believe in the CK then ......
why do you always try to play the ultimatum game with your loaded questions? Do people really fall for that?
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subgenius wrote:gdemetz wrote:Christ grace is a free gift for us from which all men will be resurrected no matter what! Those who truly believe in Him by following His teachings and keeping His commandments become justified by His grace for a celestial resurrection. They become sanctified by the Holy Spirit and speak by the power of the Holy Ghost, as angels do, and can dwell in the presence of Heavenly Father.Drifting wrote:Do you believe that secret handshakes are required to gain admittance to the CK? YES/NO
doesn't the answer preclude itself here? If you believe in the CK then ......
why do you always try to play the ultimatum game with your loaded questions? Do people really fall for that?
So do you believe they will be required?
Oh...and have you made a decision yetabout what you believe concerning the Church's position on that whole earth flood thing?
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"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Drifting wrote:So do you believe they will be required?
asked you first....and already answered this one
Drifting wrote:Oh...and have you made a decision yetabout what you believe concerning the Church's position on that whole earth flood thing?
already answered on another thread
now its your turn, or once again expose yourself as disingenuous
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
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I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
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subgenius wrote:asked you first....and already answered this one
already answered on another thread
now its your turn, or once again expose yourself as disingenuous
Care to direct me to your answers?
I need to check you actually have answered before I respond to you.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Drifting wrote:subgenius wrote:asked you first....and already answered this one
already answered on another thread
now its your turn, or once again expose yourself as disingenuous
Care to direct me to your answers?
I need to check you actually have answered before I respond to you.
you beat this horse to death when talking about "Rainbows", it is not my burden that you don't pay attention when people respond to you....so, i guess i will just respond to you in kind.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
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subgenius wrote:you beat this horse to death when talking about "Rainbows", it is not my burden that you don't pay attention when people respond to you....so, i guess i will just respond to you in kind.
Hmmm...I recall that thread.
I also recall the closest you came to answering wether or not you believed in what the Church teaches about the flood was to say a global flood was theoretically possible.
You hide your non answering of questions by claiming other people don't answer questions.
You're just frightened to stand up and state what you believe one way or the other. No problem.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator