Gnat Straining and the Apologist

[_Themis]

Again, as I've stated, you aren't thinking very clearly. If it was Satan, he just demonstrated that such beings exist and Satan encouraged me to seek after and worship God. As I said, your whole position is completely ludicrous.

He may be getting you to worship a false God, and it still misses better explanations, especially in light of so much evidence proving Joseph made it up. To bad evidence means nothing to you.

[_Tobin]

Again, as I've stated, you aren't thinking very clearly. If it was Satan, he just demonstrated that such beings exist and Satan encouraged me to seek after and worship God. As I said, your whole position is completely ludicrous.

He may be getting you to worship a false God, and it still misses better explanations, especially in light of so much evidence proving Joseph made it up. To bad evidence means nothing to you.

Just more muddled thinking from you. You have fallen back into the ludicrous conception that Satan is more powerful than God yet again. Your assertion is that God is incapable of correcting us and leading us to the truth no matter what Satan does. And evidence is paramount to what I'm stating. There is no reason to believe in any of this stuff without it. You often try to characterize what I'm saying by stating it is actually the opposite of what I've just said. It isn't a very honest nor interesting approach to take when someone is trying to discuss something with you. I am certainly getting tired of your routine.

[_kjones]

Joseph...eloped with Emma....

Emma was 21 years old and unmarried. That would be like being 26-27 today, or even older. Isaac Hale was fiercely opposed to her marriage to Joseph Smith, but she was 21 and had made up her mind. What choice did they have but to "elope"? As she said herself, "Preferring [Joseph] to any other man I knew, I consented to marry him."

[_Drifting]

Again, as I've stated, you aren't thinking very clearly. If it was Satan, he just demonstrated that such beings exist and Satan encouraged me to seek after and worship God. As I said, your whole position is completely ludicrous.

No, Satan got you to seek after and worship his version of God.
Think it through - Your views are wildly out if sync with Gods one true Church.

[_Tobin]

Again, as I've stated, you aren't thinking very clearly. If it was Satan, he just demonstrated that such beings exist and Satan encouraged me to seek after and worship God. As I said, your whole position is completely ludicrous.

No, Satan got you to seek after and worship his version of God.
Think it through - Your views are wildly out if sync with Gods one true Church.

Uh huh. I think you are mistaking who is listening to Satan here.

[_Drifting]

No, Satan got you to seek after and worship his version of God.
Think it through - Your views are wildly out if sync with Gods one true Church.

Uh huh. I think you are mistaking who is listening to Satan here.

Would you count yourself as TBM?

Would anyone else consider Tobin a TBM?

[_Tobin]

Uh huh. I think you are mistaking who is listening to Satan here.

Would you count yourself as TBM?

Would anyone else consider Tobin a TBM?

Funny. This is coming from someone standing against people seeking and speaking with God. I think we all know who your true master is Drifting.

[_Drifting]

Uh huh. I think you are mistaking who is listening to Satan here.

Would you count yourself as TBM?

Would anyone else consider Tobin a TBM?

Funny. This is coming from someone standing against people seeking and speaking with God. I think we all know who your true master is Drifting.

Would you count yourself as TBM?

[_Tobin]

Would you count yourself as TBM?

When did Satan get such a powerful hold on you Drifting? One day you will have to stand before God and account for yourself. How will you answer when it is pointed out that you have stood against the truth? That you stood against the teaching that man should seek and speak with God. That you stood against the prophets who have also sought and spoke with God. That you stood against the scriptures where they write about God. And that you stood against God and his gospel.

[Guest]

Would you count yourself as TBM?

When did Satan get such a powerful hold on you Drifting? One day you will have to stand before God and account for yourself. How will you answer when it is pointed out that you have stood against the truth? That you stood against the teaching that man should seek and speak with God. That you stood against the prophets who have also sought and spoke with God. That you stood against the scriptures where they write about God. And that you stood against God and his gospel.

Would you count yourself as TBM?

Tobin, let me articulate what I believe to be the issue you need to face.

Your postings peg you as something quite removed from TBM status, in fact you have spoke derogatory about a number of aspects and doctrines and practices, including the Church leadership.

This is as a result, you say, of clear direction from God.

So, in short, you have removed yourself from firm and committed belief in Gods one true Church and you have done so because God Himself directed you.

Would God Himself lead you away from His one true Church?
Or is it more likely to be someone other than God?