Is God Omniscience

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God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end." Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses Vol. 6:120

Acording to Wilford Woodruff God is not Omniscience

Yet The Book of Mormon says he is.

2 Nephi 9:20 O how great the holiness of our God! For he knoweth all things, and there is not anything save he knows it.

Excerpted from "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power" by D. Michael Quinn
"Jan 7-8, 1960 - First Presidency decides that Bruce R. McConkie’s Mormon Doctrine “must not be re-published, as it is full of errors and misstatements, and it is most unfortunate that it has received such wide circulation.” They are exasperated that McConkie and his publisher released the book without pre-publication publicity or notifying First Presidency. Even his father-in-law, senior apostle, Joseph Fielding Smith, “did not know anything about it until it was published.” This is McConkie’s way to avoid repetition of Presidency’s stopping his pre-announced Sound Doctrine three years earlier.

Committee of two apostles (Mark E Petersen and Marion G Romney) reports that McConkie’s Mormon Doctrine contains 1,067 doctrinal errors. For example, page 493 said: “Those who falsely and erroneously suppose that God is progressing in knowledge and gaining new truths cannot exercise sufficient faith in him to gain salvation until they divest themselves of their false beliefs.” However, McConkie is affirming doctrine of omniscience officially condemned by previous First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in 1865.”

Bruce R McConkie got in Big trouble in Mormon Doctrine for saying he was Omniscience

See GOD, KNOWLEDGE, OMNIPOTENCE, OMNIPRESENCE, WISDOM. God is omniscient. (Lectures on Faith, pp. 9, 43-45, 50-51; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 5-10.) Omniscience consists in having unlimited knowledge. God knows all things (2 Ne. 9:20; D. & C. 38:1-2; 88:7-13); possesses "a fulness of truth, yea, even of all truth" (D. & C. 93:11, 26); "has all power, all wisdom, and all understanding" (Alma 26:35); is infinite in understanding (Ps. 147:4-5); comprehends all things (Alma 26:35; D. & C. 88:41); and "hath given a law unto all things." (D. & C. 88:42.)

"It is not because the Lord is ignorant of law and truth that he is able to progress, but because of his knowledge and wisdom," President Joseph Fielding Smith has written. "The Lord is constantly using his knowledge in his work. And his great work is in bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. By the creation of worlds and peopling them, by building and extending, he progresses, but not because the fulness of truth is not understood by him." (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 10; D. & C. 84:38; 93:16-17; Matt. 28:18; Moro. 7:22.)

Joseph Smith said: "Without the knowledge of all things God would not be able to save any portion of his creatures; ... and if it were not for the idea existing in the minds of men that God had all knowledge it would be impossible for them to exercise faith in him." (Lectures on Faith, p. 44.)

Is God the Author of confusion


God Cannot Be a God of Confusion

Sane thinking leads one to the conclusion that God cannot be the author of confusion; that two contradictory organizations could not originate with him, for God cannot be divided against himself

A Marvelous Work and a Wonder page 27

[_ludwigm]

FYI

...something worth to "Dr. Shades's Grammar Lesson of the Day"...

American Heritage Dictionary: om·ni·pres·ent
adjective
Present everywhere simultaneously.
->god is omnipresent

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary: om·ni·pres·ence
noun
Presence in every place at the same time; unbounded or universal presence; ubiquity.
->god has (the attribute of) omnipresence

[Guest]

Omnipresence

See GOD, LIGHT OF Christ, OMNIPOTENCE, OMNISCIENCE. God is omnipresent (Lectures on Faith, p. 9); he is the Immanent God, the indwelling Presence in all immensity. "In him we live, and move, and have our being." (Acts 17:28.) "He is above all things, and in all things, and is through all things, and is round about all things; and all things are by him, and of him, even God, forever and ever." (D. & C. 88:41.)

It is by reference to this true doctrine of omnipresence that the sectarian world attempts to justify its false creeds which describe Deity as a vague, ethereal, immaterial essence which fills the immensity of space and is everywhere and nowhere in particular present. God himself, of course, is a personal Being in whose image man is created. (Gen. 1:26; 5:1; Moses 2:26; 6:9), but he is also an immanent Being, meaning that the light of Christ shines forth from him to fill all space. This "light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space — The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things." (D. & C. 88:12-13.)

God is the Creator; the power, light, influence, and spirit that goes forth from his person to fill all immensity is a creature of his creating. Thus it was that Paul, speaking of apostate peoples, said they had "changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever." (Rom. 1:25.)

Mormon Doctrine

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Christian Dictionary

omnipresence The attribute that refers to God’s being present everywhere in creation at the same time. Perhaps omnipresence more correctly suggests that all things are present to God. As a result there is nowhere in the universe that lies beyond the cognition (and care) of God.

omniscience The attribute that denotes God’s knowing all things. Omniscience means that all events are present to the divine mind; that is, God has direct cognition of everything in creation.

omnipotence The attribute that refers to God’s ability to do whatever is consistent with God’s own character and being in effecting the divine plan for creation. God’s omnipotence is primarily demonstrated in God’s overturning evil for good. This is especially evident in the death of Jesus, which although it was the act of malicious people, has become God’s means of human salvation.

ousia Greek for “substance” or “being.” Trinitarian thought suggests that the Son derives his ousia from the Father, and yet what the Son is so the Father is exactly (see homoousios). In their formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity, the Cappadocian fathers declared that God was one ousia but three hypostaseis.

in other words One God in three separate and distinct persons


Trinity The Christian understanding of God as triune. Trinity means that the one divine nature is a unity of three persons and that God is revealed as three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The ultimate basis for the Christian doctrine of the Trinity lies in the divine self-disclosure in Jesus, who as the Son revealed the Father and poured out the Holy Spirit.

[_subgenius]

Christian Dictionary

omnipresence The attribute that refers to God’s being present everywhere in creation at the same time. Perhaps omnipresence more correctly suggests that all things are present to God. As a result there is nowhere in the universe that lies beyond the cognition (and care) of God.

omniscience The attribute that denotes God’s knowing all things. Omniscience means that all events are present to the divine mind; that is, God has direct cognition of everything in creation.

omnipotence The attribute that refers to God’s ability to do whatever is consistent with God’s own character and being in effecting the divine plan for creation. God’s omnipotence is primarily demonstrated in God’s overturning evil for good. This is especially evident in the death of Jesus, which although it was the act of malicious people, has become God’s means of human salvation.

ousia Greek for “substance” or “being.” Trinitarian thought suggests that the Son derives his ousia from the Father, and yet what the Son is so the Father is exactly (see homoousios). In their formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity, the Cappadocian fathers declared that God was one ousia but three hypostaseis.

in other words One God in three separate and distinct persons


Trinity The Christian understanding of God as triune. Trinity means that the one divine nature is a unity of three persons and that God is revealed as three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The ultimate basis for the Christian doctrine of the Trinity lies in the divine self-disclosure in Jesus, who as the Son revealed the Father and poured out the Holy Spirit.

your cut-n-paste methods merely expose your inability to form an original thought or an original opinion. Posting three definitions does not "conclude" that God is all three...or any of the three. I have really begun to wonder if your pharmacist knows you are on the internet.

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I'm sure you are Lost, confused, unsure, unclear,perplexed, disoriented, and bewildered if you follow the blind guides of Mormonism, which would make you blind deaf, and dumb

[_LittleNipper]

I'm sure you are Lost, confused, unsure, unclear,perplexed, disoriented, and bewildered if you follow the blind guides of Mormonism, which would make you blind deaf, and dumb

I believe we (Bible believing Christians) see that the Bible is about God's relationship to us and how God accomplishes this and why. It's about God and His worship amd interactions for us/with us. I find that Mormons dwell on what is in it for them --- eternal marriage, becoming gods, sex in the afterlife, will they sit on the right or left side of God ... I feel they do not get it simply because God is not what concerns them and they see God as a sort of super Mormon from the past. I might be wrong, but if I am, I do not think I 'm far from the mark.

[_Mittens]

I agree the Mormons are more interested in there organization than God, that's why their Worship Music is lacking any annointing and borrow Evangelic music since they can't do there own.

example of PURE WORSHIP

http://youtu.be/DdQ79-GBRi4

[_subgenius]

so, in lieu of an actual rebuttal Mittens and Nipper prefer to conjure up feeble insults and stroke each others fur....
i appreciate such a low-minded tactic.....but.....it still lack any scriptural basis for the assertions in the OP.
Cut-n-paste from the "Christian Dictionary" does not prove the proposed Trinity, nor does it prove anything about whatever the OP is alleging as the nature of God. So far the OP is rather incoherent, and that burden is on the poster since they are trying to "make a point".

[_Fence Sitter]

The Mormon God does not know how to create or destroy matter. So in that sense he is neither omnipotent or omniscient.