Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

[_ludwigm]

Now, someone is lying about something or they simply do not know what they are talking about. In either case, it doesn't look good for those who try to disprove the possiblity of Noah's Flood. THE REALITY COULD BE A MISINTREPRETATION OF DATA.

For example:

[Guest]

I have been told time and again by evolutions that there is no way the entire earth was flooded. There is no evidence (according to some) that the entire earth was under water.

So you can't show where the science states the earth was never covered mostly by water. I assume most of the people you are talking to are not scientists and they referring to recent geological time of thousands of years ago and not 2.5 billion.

Now, someone is lying about something or they simply do not know what they are talking about. In either case, it doesn't look good for those who try to disprove the possiblity of Noah's Flood. THE REALITY COULD BE A MISINTREPRETATION OF DATA. One little mistake is all it takes to throw off an equasion.

Could you be specific. At this point I can only see you have no idea what you are talking about and seem to have some very ignorant ideas about science.

Look, I can see I have to be rather blunt. Simply tell a person that you believe that Noah's Flood is a true story, and you'll understand exactly what I am talking about. The answers will be, There is not enough water to cover the entire earth; There is no evidence the Flood ever happened; The Alps are too tall; The earth's crust originates at the bottom of the ocean and over millions of years in geological time everything started at the ocean floor and worked its way slowly to become dry land... TAKE your pick. I believe the Flood really happened and the entire earth was inundated. Actually, I have no idea what YOUR talking about.

[_LittleNipper]

I have been told time and again by evolutions that there is no way the entire earth was flooded. There is no evidence (according to some) that the entire earth was under water.

So you can't show where the science states the earth was never covered mostly by water. I assume most of the people you are talking to are not scientists and they referring to recent geological time of thousands of years ago and not 2.5 billion.

Now, someone is lying about something or they simply do not know what they are talking about. In either case, it doesn't look good for those who try to disprove the possiblity of Noah's Flood. THE REALITY COULD BE A MISINTREPRETATION OF DATA. One little mistake is all it takes to throw off an equasion.

Could you be specific. At this point I can only see you have no idea what you are talking about and seem to have some very ignorant ideas about science.

[_Themis]

Look, I can see I have to be rather blunt. Simply tell a person that you believe that Noah's Flood is a true story, and you'll understand exactly what I am talking about.

How about just show where the scientific community that is involved on these ares says the earth was never covered in water at any time in it's history.

The answers will be, There is not enough water to cover the entire earth;

That's true for the past, at least back a couple of billions years.

There is no evidence the Flood ever happened;

That is also true. I haven't seen anything from the young earth creationists that someone with a little knowledge and an open mind cannot see is not evidence for what they claim. Feel free to give even one.

The Alps are too tall;

Also true.

The earth's crust originates at the bottom of the ocean and over millions of years in geological time everything started at the ocean floor and worked its way slowly to become dry land... TAKE your pick. I believe the Flood really happened and the entire earth was inundated. Actually, I have no idea what YOUR talking about.

I am talking about actual science. Your posts do not demonstrate a working knowledge of these issues.

[_bcuzbcuz]

Now, someone is lying about something or they simply do not know what they are talking about. In either case, it doesn't look good for those who try to disprove the possiblity of Noah's Flood. THE REALITY COULD BE A MISINTREPRETATION OF DATA. One little mistake is all it takes to throw off an equasion.

I think you need to do some serious reading of geology texts to get some basic facts. The "MISINTREPRETATION OF DATA" you're looking for doesn't exist...except in the minds of those who want to piss in the wind.

[_Franktalk]

The volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi x r^3. The volume of water required to cover the himalayas simply does not exist on the planet.

Come now open your mind up a little. Simple mechanics shows us that sinking the continents and rising the sea floors could easily flood the earth. Are you saying that a God that could fashion the universe could not make a flood? Or are you saying that it is your belief that God does not exist? It seems to me that a God that can not flood His own creation is not a God. Is not the argument for a weak God a way of arguing for a strong position of man in the universe? Are we not a product of nature and we sit at the top of the evolutionary tree? I mean a weak God did not even create life or anything. Nature is God and man is top dog from a naturalist point of view. So isn't this all an attempt to replace God with man?

The volume of a toroid is V = 2 (pi^2) ( r^2) R. Aren't I smart.

[Guest]

Ok Frank,
You throw in magical god, who changes all the evidence, willy nilly pushes around continents, sea floors and mountain ranges, and asks you to turn off your brain and believe in faith because the 5k year old mythology of a bunch of sheepherders said it happened that way.

You sure you worship Jehovah and not Loki in disguise?

[_Franktalk]

Ok Frank,
You throw in magical god, who changes all the evidence, willy nilly pushes around continents, sea floors and mountain ranges, and asks you to turn off you brain and believe in faith because the 5k year old mythology of a bunch of sheepherders said it happened that way.

You sure you worship Jehovah and not Loki in disguise?

I believe this earth belongs to who made it. You may believe that things happened by accident I believe things happened by plan.

[_Themis]

Come now open your mind up a little. Simple mechanics shows us that sinking the continents and rising the sea floors could easily flood the earth.

You are not showing an open mind, but an ignorant one. The mechanics don't work that way.

Are you saying that a God that could fashion the universe could not make a flood?

No and it shows you still miss the point.

Or are you saying that it is your belief that God does not exist?

Still misses the point.

It seems to me that a God that can not flood His own creation is not a God.

Define him anyway you want. It won't change anything.

Is not the argument for a weak God a way of arguing for a strong position of man in the universe?

Doesn't change anything.

Are we not a product of nature and we sit at the top of the evolutionary tree?

No we are not the top of the evolutionary tree. This just shows more ignorance.

I mean a weak God did not even create life or anything. Nature is God and man is top dog from a naturalist point of view. So isn't this all an attempt to replace God with man?

Not at all. I think they just don't see any evidence for a God.

The volume of a toroid is V = 2 (pi^2) ( r^2) R. Aren't I smart.

I don't thin that would fit my definition of smart, but lets hope you are.

[_SteelHead]

Use the formula for the volume of a sphere to calculate the amount of water needed to raise the sea level over the Himalayas.

1st calculate the volume required to cover the highest mountains. (Hint radius of the earth at sea level + 8.84 km).
2nd calculate the volume at sea level.

3rd. Subtract 2 from 1.

4th Multiply by .9 to roughly account for landmass.

Now find the resultant volume of water.

Roughly 4.5 billion cubic kilometers of water. Or more than 3 times the existing volume of the seas & oceans.

Where did it go?