gdemetz wrote:Are you even bothering to read all my references?!? The last reference I gave was from the Catholic encyclopedia!
You didn't provide a link. Not to mention that it doesn't erase all the Hebrew scholars that say Elohim is used in a singular fashion when referring to the God of Abraham. You haven't provided anything that refutes that.
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei
Kittens, just Google "Catholic encyclopedia"! It's there if you really want to see it! How many references do you want that state it is a PLURAL form?!?!?!?
I gave you the exact quote which stated PLURAL, and you can easily look that up if you care to find the truth, and of course it can be used as singular also, especially when it is applying only to one God, the God of Israel or Christ!
gdemetz wrote:I gave you the exact quote which stated PLURAL, and you can easily look that up if you care to find the truth, and of course it can be used as singular also, especially when it is applying only to one God, the God of Israel or Christ!
This is the point I've been arguing the whole time. Elohim can be plural, when referring to gods, but is singular when referring to God. I never said it can't be plural. Go back and read again, more slowly this time if it helps. Below is a quote from one of your earlier posts.
You are contradicting yourself.
"I stated that Elohim was plural for God, which it is, and it is definitely NOT always singular! How dumb! How many quotes do I need to give here?!?"
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei
gdemetz wrote:I gave you the exact quote which stated PLURAL, and you can easily look that up if you care to find the truth, and of course it can be used as singular also, especially when it is applying only to one God, the God of Israel or Christ!
The Jews do not believe the term has anything to do with plurality but magnitude.
gdemetz wrote:That is not correct Nipper! Also, I did not contradict myself! That is why the King James translators stated; "LET US MAKE MAN"!!!
You did contradict yourself and my previous posts explained the use of "we" and "us".
More proof that you didn't read my links.
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei
gdemetz wrote:I did not contradict myself! If something is plural (even if not always), the it is definitely NOT always singular!
Nobody said it is always singular. It is only used in the singular fashion when referring to the God of Abraham. It is plural when referring to pagan gods. My links explained this.
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei