Does the First Presidency have its priorities right?

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Does the First Presidency have its priorities right?

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President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, second counselor in the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), threw out the first pitch at a recent Los Angeles Dodgers baseball game.

In what has become an annual tradition, more than 8,000 Latter-day Saints enjoyed a nice evening at California’s Dodger Stadium for Mormon Night with the Dodgers. The more than 25-year tradition was continued Friday, 29 June 2012.

The highlight of the evening came when President Uchtdorf threw out the ceremonial first pitch. The crowd greeted him with a loud cheer as his name was announced. The pitch was caught by Elder William Reynolds, a Seventy in the Church. Honorary umpire Kevin Hamilton, director of the Southern California Public Affairs Council, called the pitch a strike.


Meanwhile...

What's more, an estimated one in nine children die before their fifth birthday, 20 per cent are malnourished, and only 13 per cent have access to adequate sanitation.

UNICEF has been working with the country's new government to develop policy in education, water and sanitation and justice for children. For example, a growing number of children are getting access to improved drinking water, and just this year, the Sudan People’s Liberation Army signed a commitment to have no children within its ranks.


I wonder when the head of UNICEF will get to toss the first pitch at a Dodgers game...
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Drifting wrote:
President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, second counselor in the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), threw out the first pitch at a recent Los Angeles Dodgers baseball game.

In what has become an annual tradition, more than 8,000 Latter-day Saints enjoyed a nice evening at California’s Dodger Stadium for Mormon Night with the Dodgers. The more than 25-year tradition was continued Friday, 29 June 2012.

The highlight of the evening came when President Uchtdorf threw out the ceremonial first pitch. The crowd greeted him with a loud cheer as his name was announced. The pitch was caught by Elder William Reynolds, a Seventy in the Church. Honorary umpire Kevin Hamilton, director of the Southern California Public Affairs Council, called the pitch a strike.


Meanwhile...

What's more, an estimated one in nine children die before their fifth birthday, 20 per cent are malnourished, and only 13 per cent have access to adequate sanitation.

UNICEF has been working with the country's new government to develop policy in education, water and sanitation and justice for children. For example, a growing number of children are getting access to improved drinking water, and just this year, the Sudan People’s Liberation Army signed a commitment to have no children within its ranks.


I wonder when the head of UNICEF will get to toss the first pitch at a Dodgers game...

most likely not, they tend to appoint ambassadors for that, such as Jackie Chan.
So, any action by the first presidency that is not directly involved with Africa's starving children is a point of contention with you?, absurd reality you have constructed.
Besides, the head of UNICEF is a temporary, transitory stepping block position, like Ann Veneman who left UNICEF to be US Agriculture secretary, Anthony Lake is probably too busy writing another book, and Carol Bellamy moved on to that delightful organization World Learning. Something about UNICEF must not lead people to lifelong dedication.
UNICEF is a great organization but it seems like your beef may be with the Dodgers not the LDS church.
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subgenius wrote:UNICEF is a great organization but it seems like your beef may be with the Dodgers not the LDS church.


Well who hasn't got a beef with them?

Seriously though:
It is beginning to feel like the First Presidency have time to attend the grand opening of an envelope.

And when Holland goes to Africa, all the pictures are of him in Church buildings with white shirted African members. Why isn't he out there bringing the attention of the world's Mormons to the plight of the starving millions? Here is an emissary of Christ on one of the most impoverished continents on the planet and he's looking for a warm fuzzy for LDS.org.

In an interview in Accra, Ghana, Elder Holland discussed the challenges the Church has faced in dealing with poverty in Africa.

“The Brethren knew, years ago, that we would be coming here, because the gospel is for all the world, and we knew that our African brothers and sisters were more than deserving. We also knew that [for the Church] Africa was this new, big frontier, and I think many were worried about the financial and welfare-related implications. How do you address such poverty? How do you address such third-world circumstances? It is still something we think about,” he said.


Easy...let's go shopping...


Disgraceful.
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The First Presidency does not seem to be overly concerned with its ostensible mission. Waving in parades, and telling people "1, 2, 3, let's go shopping!" is kind of low-priority, yet they do it.
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M.org and its crooners, like to play the popularity game.
They advise members to try to live celestial law, consecration etc...
not to gamble nor take part in raffles or lotteries...

Whilst the organisation its self feels it needs to protect its stocks,shares and investments,
which means all the good they do sending bags of wheat to 3rd world countries, is a front for them buying up farmland and monopolizing the farmers markets yet know not to be dumb enough to follow Jesus and give ALL they have to the poor.

Try as they might, they cannot quite, give the widows mite.
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Drifting wrote:And when Holland goes to Africa, all the pictures are of him in Church buildings with white shirted African members. Why isn't he out there bringing the attention of the world's Mormons to the plight of the starving millions? Here is an emissary of Christ on one of the most impoverished continents on the planet and he's looking for a warm fuzzy for LDS.org.

In an interview in Accra, Ghana, Elder Holland discussed the challenges the Church has faced in dealing with poverty in Africa.

“The Brethren knew, years ago, that we would be coming here, because the gospel is for all the world, and we knew that our African brothers and sisters were more than deserving. We also knew that [for the Church] Africa was this new, big frontier, and I think many were worried about the financial and welfare-related implications. How do you address such poverty? How do you address such third-world circumstances? It is still something we think about,” he said.




This is actually an important policy consideration for the Church. The Seventh Day Adventists are growing three times faster than the LDS Church. A big difference is they invest in hospitals, schools and the economic infrastructure of developing nations. Give a man a fish and potatoes and he can have fish and chips. Give a man a job and he will become a religious adherent.
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moksha wrote:The Seventh Day Adventists are growing three times faster than the LDS Church. A big difference is they invest in hospitals, schools and the economic infrastructure of developing nations.


And yet there are Christians who argue that Seventh Day Adventists are themselves not Christians because of their somewhat unorthodox interpretation of the Trinity.

Just goes to show how little modern Christianity has to do with Christ.


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todays anti-Mormon sermon august 19/2012

24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master.

25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!

[Beelzebub] means “Lord of the Flies’”

26 Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.

{ anti-Mormon statement since they like hiding things from investagators and non-Mormons ]

27 “Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops.

{ anti-Mormon statement since they like hiding things from investagators and non-Mormons ]

28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

[ Mormonism kills the soul and sometimes the body “ blood atonement doctrine” ]

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31 Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.

33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;

36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

[ Mormons prefer the family over Jesus]

38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.

[ Mormons deny the Cross ]

39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

40 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

42 And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly, I say to you, he shall by no means lose his reward.”


one of the Songs we sang today at Church describe Evangelic God with Mormon god

http://youtu.be/oksdb06SsTM
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
moksha wrote:The Seventh Day Adventists are growing three times faster than the LDS Church. A big difference is they invest in hospitals, schools and the economic infrastructure of developing nations.


And yet there are Christians who argue that Seventh Day Adventists are themselves not Christians because of their somewhat unorthodox interpretation of the Trinity.

Just goes to show how little modern Christianity has to do with Christ.


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could you explain the Seventh Day Adventists unorthodox interpretation of the Trinity.

since I thought they believed in Three Separate and Distinct Persons with in the nature of the One God like the rest of the Christian world
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Mittens wrote: could you explain the Seventh Day Adventists unorthodox interpretation of the Trinity.

since I thought they believed in Three Separate and Distinct Persons with in the nature of the One God like the rest of the Christian world


No, I can't, because I'm not the one who's going around saying they're not Christians. But there are several Christian sites on the net that can answer that question.
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