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Drifting wrote:And yet God chose personally to cast his pearls before you when you were an evil man. How can that be?

You said God sought you out when you weren't looking for Him and were sinning quite badly and yet for other people you expect them to be men if God making heart searching enquiries before He will let on.

Can you not see the double standard you have created?


And clearly he doesn't talk to you. I think that speaks volumes about you.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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Tobin wrote:
Drifting wrote:And yet God chose personally to cast his pearls before you when you were an evil man. How can that be?

You said God sought you out when you weren't looking for Him and were sinning quite badly and yet for other people you expect them to be men if God making heart searching enquiries before He will let on.

Can you not see the double standard you have created?


And clearly he doesn't talk to you. I think that speaks volumes about you.


Why?
I'm nowhere near the sinner you were when God decided off His own back to grant you a visitation. But wait... You don't really know that it was God that showed up do you... I'm betting He didn't show I.D.

You expect people to believe God turned up in person and unprompted to visit with you a sinner, yet you preach to us that God won't manifest Himself to sinners. Explain that double standard for us...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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Tobin wrote:
Themis wrote:...
Still refusing to do your homework that I gave you I see. Please read about Paul or Alma the Younger. It might enlighten your mind if you understood a few things about the Lord and who he speaks to.


They don't agree with you either, but you are still avoiding your bad attitude towards the OP, and keep stating then opposite of what he says about himself.
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Drifting wrote:
Why?
I'm nowhere near the sinner you were when God decided off His own back to grant you a visitation. But wait... You don't really know that it was God that showed up do you... I'm betting He didn't show I.D.

You expect people to believe God turned up in person and unprompted to visit with you a sinner, yet you preach to us that God won't manifest Himself to sinners. Explain that double standard for us...


Tobin use to say more, but it brought up to many problems. Now he keeps quiet about. It does bring up a lot of problems why God would show up to him, but not to so so many others believer and not who he would consider better them him at this time.
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Drifting wrote:Why?
I'm nowhere near the sinner you were when God decided off His own back to grant you a visitation. But wait... You don't really know that it was God that showed up do you... I'm betting He didn't show I.D.

You expect people to believe God turned up in person and unprompted to visit with you a sinner, yet you preach to us that God won't manifest Himself to sinners. Explain that double standard for us...


It isn't because you are sinner Drifting. Even sinners can speak with God and repent. You choose not to. When asked to seek God you refuse. When told that others have seen God and therefore believe in him - you dispute with them and the sciptures that state the same types of things.

I'm talking about your nature as you are Drifting. Even I have said that you will eventually see and speak with God. If you want to do so now, then you know what you have to do. If not, you can wait.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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Tobin wrote:
Drifting wrote:And yet God chose personally to cast his pearls before you when you were an evil man. How can that be?

You said God sought you out when you weren't looking for Him and were sinning quite badly and yet for other people you expect them to be men if God making heart searching enquiries before He will let on.

Can you not see the double standard you have created?


And clearly he doesn't talk to you. I think that speaks volumes about you.


There's that attitude again. Your description of yourself when you think God showed up must have been worse then drifting, yet you go after him. Makes one wonder if God really did show up.
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Tobin wrote:
It isn't because you are sinner Drifting. Even sinners can speak with God and repent. You choose not to. When asked to seek God you refuse. When told that others have seen God and therefore believe in him - you dispute with them and the sciptures that state the same types of things.

I'm talking about your nature as you are Drifting. Even I have said that you will eventually see and speak with God. If you want to do so now, then you know what you have to do. If not, you can wait.


And your nature was some how better. Seriously. I remember your descriptions of yourself. I bet drifting has spent years to decades like many of us seeking God.
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Tobin wrote:
Drifting wrote:Why?
I'm nowhere near the sinner you were when God decided off His own back to grant you a visitation. But wait... You don't really know that it was God that showed up do you... I'm betting He didn't show I.D.

You expect people to believe God turned up in person and unprompted to visit with you a sinner, yet you preach to us that God won't manifest Himself to sinners. Explain that double standard for us...


It isn't because you are sinner Drifting. Even sinners can speak with God and repent. You choose not to. When asked to seek God you refuse. When told that others have seen God and therefore believe in him - you dispute with them and the sciptures that state the same types of things.

I'm talking about your nature as you are Drifting. Even I have said that you will eventually see and speak with God. If you want to do so now, then you know what you have to do. If not, you can wait.


Fail.
You saw God, so I should follow your example.
What was it you were doing when He turned up?
And even if I choose to seek God I have no way of knowing I won't be tricked by an imposter because you won't tell me what He looks or sounds like.
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Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Themis wrote:
Tobin wrote:
It isn't because you are sinner Drifting. Even sinners can speak with God and repent. You choose not to. When asked to seek God you refuse. When told that others have seen God and therefore believe in him - you dispute with them and the sciptures that state the same types of things.

I'm talking about your nature as you are Drifting. Even I have said that you will eventually see and speak with God. If you want to do so now, then you know what you have to do. If not, you can wait.


And your nature was some how better. Seriously. I remember your descriptions of yourself. I bet drifting has spent years to decades like many of us seeking God.


I'm not claiming my nature was any different and I had to wait for my answer. However, you keep saying the same thing the OP does. We have already (sub, jo, myself) pointed out how ridiculous that is. You are not a faithful follower of God. In that case, there is no reason God will answer you other than he chooses to. You can either 1) seek God or 2) wait for God to answer you. If you want an answer now, seek God. If not, you can wait. You are going to see and speak with God regardless.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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Drifting wrote:Fail.
You saw God, so I should follow your example.
What was it you were doing when He turned up?
And even if I choose to seek God I have no way of knowing I won't be tricked by an imposter because you won't tell me what He looks or sounds like.

I didn't ask you to follow my example. I asked you to seek God and speak with him. The fact you chafe against that request is the problem here. You claim to believe in God, yet you don't believe the sciptures or in a God that can talk to you. There is nothing more that I can do but repeatedly ask you to humble yourself and seek and speak with God.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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