Fulfilled Prophecy?

[_Franktalk]

I thought God was once a man who is still progressing.
Why, you yourself told us that God was still learning and creating.

In terms of His judgements being based on the 'conditions and actions of man'. How does that apply to those children and infants that died when God flooded the earth?

There you go again telling God what He can and can not do. Must be great to be you. Knowing everything and seeing everything. Maybe you can write a book and publish it. You know like wisdom for the ages or some such title. Please share all of your wit and wisdom. But I have a problem between what you say and the vision I have of you in my head. I see some creepy punk in the basement of grandma's house trying to be a big man using his internet connection. Somehow that picture does not fit the wise and absolute truth that dribbles from you. Oh, I see you are being called to lunch. Looks like milk and cookies. Lucky guy.

[_Drifting]

I thought God was once a man who is still progressing.
Why, you yourself told us that God was still learning and creating.

In terms of His judgements being based on the 'conditions and actions of man'. How does that apply to those children and infants that died when God flooded the earth?

There you go again telling God what He can and can not do.

Can you show me where I told God what He could and couldn't do?

Must be great to be you.

It absolutely is.

Knowing everything and seeing everything.

I think you will find i ask a lot of questions and provide a lot of official quotes in support of viewpoints. I have never claimed to know and see everything...hence the questions...

Maybe you can write a book and publish it.

how do you know I haven't?

You know like wisdom for the ages or some such title. Please share all of your wit and wisdom.

Happy to, but make sure you listen good.

But I have a problem

I'm guessing you have more than one...

between what you say and the vision I have of you in my head.

Now that's creepy...

I see some creepy punk in the basement of grandma's house trying to be a big man using his internet connection.

Did God tell you this?

Somehow that picture does not fit the wise and absolute truth that dribbles from you.

This comment doesn't fit with the theme to your post, maybe rethink it into "Somehow that picture does fit the wise and absolute truth that dribbles from you." See how that works better?

Oh, I see you are being called to lunch. Looks like milk and cookies. Lucky guy.

I am.

I note that, despite your attempt at slurring and baiting, that you haven't provided any coherent rebuttal to any point I've made.

Deep down you are disappointed in yourself.
If it's any consolation...you have every right to be...

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Yes, I believe it.

Aikido is my religion and the man that made that statement was the founder of Aikido.

I think he believed it too, and yet he still engaged other martial artists in debate and in demonstrations of his skill. He always kept a benevolent spirit when doing so and I try to do the same. That's why I use the quote. It is something meant to temper my responses.

I fail at it sometimes, and I bet he did too.

It is an ideal to live up to, but ideals are seldom lived up to in our imperfect world.

Thank you for responding to me. Is there a good website you can direct me to where I can learn about your beliefs? I have not heard of Aikido before. I would rather not go to a site that does not present your beliefs properly. There is a lot of that going on.

Blessings,

jo

Aikido is a martial art. It is often called the Art of Peace. It was founded by a man named Ueshiba Morihei, we call him O'Sensei which means "great teacher". He was a devout follower of an obscure Japanese sect called Oomoto. He was also an accomplished martial artist. He claimed that while performing misogi, a type of spiritual cleansing involving meditating under a cold waterfall, that he had a vision in which he discovered that the role of a warrior should be to create peace, not to inflict harm. He took his knowledge of jiujitsu and created a purely defensive martial art where the goal was to find a way to stop an attacker without being harmed or causing much harm to the attacker.

Its got quite a following. It also has a lot of critics, however the police utilize some of its basic techniques and they find it to be effective.

Most people don't see it as a religion, but there are a few, like me, who do.

This is not exactly what we do at our dojo, but the woman in the video demonstrates a good understandable representation of what Aikido might look like in a more realistic situation. The guy in the video throws a lot of strikes, which is anathema to what O'Sensei taught.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73mcY3g5ZE

[_gdemetz]

Maybe he could take up alkido?

[_jo1952]

Aikido is a martial art. It is often called the Art of Peace. It was founded by a man named Ueshiba Morihei, we call him O'Sensei which means "great teacher". He was a devout follower of an obscure Japanese sect called Oomoto. He was also an accomplished martial artist. He claimed that while performing misogi, a type of spiritual cleansing involving meditating under a cold waterfall, that he had a vision in which he discovered that the role of a warrior should be to create peace, not to inflict harm. He took his knowledge of jiujitsu and created a purely defensive martial art where the goal was to find a way to stop an attacker without being harmed or causing much harm to the attacker.

Its got quite a following. It also has a lot of critics, however the police utilize some of its basic techniques and they find it to be effective.

Most people don't see it as a religion, but there are a few, like me, who do.

This is not exactly what we do at our dojo, but the woman in the video demonstrates a good understandable representation of what Aikido might look like in a more realistic situation. The guy in the video throws a lot of strikes, which is anathema to what O'Sensei taught.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73mcY3g5ZE

Thank you! The video was awesome! This belief system seems very honorable and good. I appreciate that you took the time to teach me something about it. It seems that for those who take it to heart as you have, that it is actually a way of life.

Blessings to you!

jo

[_PrickKicker]

Aikido is a martial art. It is often called the Art of Peace. It was founded by a man named Ueshiba Morihei, we call him O'Sensei which means "great teacher". He was a devout follower of an obscure Japanese sect called Oomoto. He was also an accomplished martial artist. He claimed that while performing misogi, a type of spiritual cleansing involving meditating under a cold waterfall, that he had a vision in which he discovered that the role of a warrior should be to create peace, not to inflict harm. He took his knowledge of jiujitsu and created a purely defensive martial art where the goal was to find a way to stop an attacker without being harmed or causing much harm to the attacker.

Its got quite a following. It also has a lot of critics, however the police utilize some of its basic techniques and they find it to be effective.

Most people don't see it as a religion, but there are a few, like me, who do.

This is not exactly what we do at our dojo, but the woman in the video demonstrates a good understandable representation of what Aikido might look like in a more realistic situation. The guy in the video throws a lot of strikes, which is anathema to what O'Sensei taught.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73mcY3g5ZE

Thank you! The video was awesome! This belief system seems very honorable and good. I appreciate that you took the time to teach me something about it. It seems that for those who take it to heart as you have, that it is actually a way of life.

Blessings to you!

jo

REALLY?
I can see why it is called the art of peace.
This is as staged as 'WWF.' and ballroom dancing! I've seen more realistic fighting from Harry, Larry and Moe. each person knowing exactly what to do and when,
in reality an attack is more often than not silent and spontaneous and the attacker is unpredictable and never aids the defenders throws by jumping and diving!
I recognize the straight arm bar and goose neck hold.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

You must be unfamiliar with martial arts. Aikido teaches using katas, and katas are indeed staged. Many other martial arts use the same mechanism. I often say that what happens in the dojo is not the same as what happens in competition and what happens in competition is not the same as what happens on the street. The reason the attacker reacts to the defender is not to aid the defender, its to avoid injury. Part of Aikido is learning to safely accept the technique. These are techniques used in other arts such as jiujitsu. You really have no idea as to what the art is. The only way to find out is to give it a try. Like I said before, the police seem to think that it works just fine.

[_PrickKicker]

You must be unfamiliar with martial arts. Aikido teaches using katas, and katas are indeed staged. Many other martial arts use the same mechanism. I often say that what happens in the dojo is not the same as what happens in competition and what happens in competition is not the same as what happens on the street. The reason the attacker reacts to the defender is not to aid the defender, its to avoid injury. Part of Aikido is learning to safely accept the technique. These are techniques used in other arts such as jiujitsu. You really have no idea as to what the art is. The only way to find out is to give it a try. Like I said before, the police seem to think that it works just fine.

I accept.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

You must be unfamiliar with martial arts. Aikido teaches using katas, and katas are indeed staged. Many other martial arts use the same mechanism. I often say that what happens in the dojo is not the same as what happens in competition and what happens in competition is not the same as what happens on the street. The reason the attacker reacts to the defender is not to aid the defender, its to avoid injury. Part of Aikido is learning to safely accept the technique. These are techniques used in other arts such as jiujitsu. You really have no idea as to what the art is. The only way to find out is to give it a try. Like I said before, the police seem to think that it works just fine.

I accept.

I'm glad to hear it.

I'd like to add that I share a lot of concerns that critics of Aikido have. Too many of us haven't studied other martial arts and don't really know how to strike a person. Sometimes our practice is too cooperative. I get frustrated by my dojomates and I think of trying a different art, but then I am reminded of the skill of my sensei. He's a gokyu karateka (5th degree black belt in karate) and really knows how to fight. Still, he abandoned the competitive world of martial arts and chose Aikido. When he applies a technique I am powerless against it, and his skill pales in comparison to his teacher. I'm not saying I think he's invincible or anything, but I have to believe that means something.

[_gdemetz]

What is the gospel of Aikido?