The Bottom Line

[_just me]

And the winner of the prize for the greatest amount of evil done over the longest period of time is:

God (as recorded in the Old Testament, at least).

Uh huh. Making baseless assertions and proving your case are two separate things malkie.

Did god have wrath and anger? Bible says yes. Did god kill people? Bible says yes.

Psalms 78:31 The wrath of God came upon them, and slew the fattest of them, and smote down the chosen men of Israel.

D&C 76:104 These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth.

[_Tobin]

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Four year olds can keep asking for you define things repeatedly ad nauseum too. Are you a child just me? At a certain point, you have to assume the person you are talking with has some level of intelligence worth holding a discussion with. Clearly, you are not such a person.

[_Drifting]

Did god have wrath and anger? Bible says yes. Did god kill people? Bible says yes.

Psalms 78:31 The wrath of God came upon them, and slew the fattest of them, and smote down the chosen men of Israel.

D&C 76:104 These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth.

Here is an example of Jesus being evil (by Tobins definition of evil)

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all of them who sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves

[_Tobin]

And the winner of the prize for the greatest amount of evil done over the longest period of time is:

God (as recorded in the Old Testament, at least).

Uh huh. Making baseless assertions and proving your case are two separate things malkie.

Did god have wrath and anger? Bible says yes. Did god kill people? Bible says yes.
Psalms 78:31 The wrath of God came upon them, and slew the fattest of them, and smote down the chosen men of Israel.
D&C 76:104 These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth.

Again, you are just pulling quotes out of context and not acknowledging the justice of God and what is being talked about. As I said, any discussion (given your last response) with you is a waste of time. Your approach to this topic can not be taken seriously at any adult level.

[_just me]

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Four year olds can keep asking for you define things repeatedly ad nauseum too. Are you a child just me? At a certain point, you have to assume the person you are talking with has some level of intelligence worth holding a discussion with. Clearly, you are not such a person.

I am asking for examples of what is evil. You answered by using the thesaurus. I would like to know what EXACT actions are evil all the time, every time.

Evil, bad, wicked, naughty...those all mean the same thing. I want to know what exactly are the actions people take that are always evil.

You said anger and irritability. I disagree that those are at all evil.

You said harmful, injury or causing suffering. I disagree that those are always evil. In some cases those are the exact things that have to happen to ultimately save a life or make a situation better.

[_just me]

Again, you are just pulling quotes out of context and not acknowledging the justice of God and what is being talked about. As I said, any discussion (given your last response) with you is a waste of time. Your approach to this topic can not be taken seriously at any adult level.

So you believe that sometimes killing is not evil?

[_Tobin]

Four year olds can keep asking for you define things repeatedly ad nauseum too. Are you a child just me? At a certain point, you have to assume the person you are talking with has some level of intelligence worth holding a discussion with. Clearly, you are not such a person.

I am asking for examples of what is evil. You answered by using the thesaurus. I would like to know what EXACT actions are evil all the time, every time.

Evil, bad, wicked, naughty...those all mean the same thing. I want to know what exactly are the actions people take that are always evil.

You said anger and irritability. I disagree that those are at all evil.

You said harmful, injury or causing suffering. I disagree that those are always evil. In some cases those are the exact things that have to happen to ultimately save a life or make a situation better.

You aren't asking a serious question. You want a specific example for every instance and circumstance encountered in life instead of an approach with dealing with reality. It is childish and I'm done with you. Welcome to ignore.

[_Drifting]

Again, you are just pulling quotes out of context and not acknowledging the justice of God and what is being talked about. As I said, any discussion (given your last response) with you is a waste of time. Your approach to this topic can not be taken seriously at any adult level.

it doesn't get any better in context...

 102 Last of all, these all are they who will not be agathered with the saints, to be bcaught up unto the cchurch of the Firstborn, and received into the cloud.

 103 These are athey who are bliars, and csorcerers, and dadulterers, and ewhoremongers, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.

 104 These are they who suffer the awrath of God on earth.

 105 These are they who suffer the avengeance of eternal fire.

 106 These are they who are cast down to ahell and bsuffer the wrath of cAlmighty God, until the dfulness of times, when Christ shall have esubdued all enemies under his ffeet, and shall have gperfected his work;

 107 When he shall adeliver up the bkingdom, and present it unto the Father, spotless, saying: I have covercome and have dtrodden the ewine-press falone, even the wine-press of the fierceness of the wrath of Almighty God.

[_just me]

I'm saying it can be recognized unequivocally as evil. Simply because a certain individual believes (or group or even society) that doing something evil is actually good does not make it so. I certainly don't believe in moral relavitism. Just because someone has biases, social preconceptions and a whole host of other factors that can distort their view of good and evil does not mean that neither exists and cannot be unequivocally identified. One does not imply the other at all. Our perceptions of what others choose (or base their decision on) does not have any effect on whether or not good and evil can be unequivocably identified and chosen between.

Moral relativism is exactly what you believe in if you believe that sometimes it is okay to kill people and sometimes it is not.

Oh, and I am super excited to have made it onto an ignore list!

[_Drifting]

I'm saying it can be recognized unequivocally as evil. Simply because a certain individual believes (or group or even society) that doing something evil is actually good does not make it so. I certainly don't believe in moral relavitism. Just because someone has biases, social preconceptions and a whole host of other factors that can distort their view of good and evil does not mean that neither exists and cannot be unequivocally identified. One does not imply the other at all. Our perceptions of what others choose (or base their decision on) does not have any effect on whether or not good and evil can be unequivocably identified and chosen between.

Moral relativism is exactly what you believe in if you believe that sometimes it is okay to kill people and sometimes it is not.

Oh, and I am super excited to have made it onto an ignore list!

What Tobin means when he puts you on ignore is that he cannot answer your questions and ignoring you avoids further mental discomfort on his part...