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Exodus 8
Then God tells Moses to visit Pharaoh and tell him to let His people go, so that they may worship Him. And If Pharoah refuses to let them go, God will send a plague of frogs on his whole country. The Nile will teem with frogs. They will come up into his palace and his bedroom and onto his bed, into the houses of his ministers and on his people, and into his ovens and kneading troughs. The Lord says to Moses to have Aaron stretch out his hand with the staff of Moses' over the streams and canals and ponds, and make frogs come up on the land of Egypt. Aaron does so and the frogs come up and cover the land. Moreover, the magicians do the same things by their secret arts; they also make frogs come up on the land of Egypt. Pharaoh summones Moses and Aaron and tells them to pray to the Lord to take the frogs away from him and his subjects, and he will let the Hebrews go to offer sacrifices to the Lord. Moses says to Pharaoh that he will hold him to his honor of setting the time for Moses to pray for him and his officials and his subjects, so that the houses may be rid of the frogs, except for those that remain in the Nile. Pharaoh tells Moses, "Tomorrow." Moses replies that it will be as Pharaoh says, so that he may know there is nothing one like the Lord God. When Moses and Aaron leave Pharaoh, Moses cries out to the Lord concerning the frogs he had brought on Pharaoh. The Lord does what Moses asks. The frogs die in the houses, in the courtyards and in the fields. They are piled into heaps, and the land reeks of them. When Pharaoh sees there is relief, he hardens his heart and would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said he would. Then the Lord says to Moses to tell Aaron to Stretch out the staff of Moses' and strike the dust of the ground, and throughout the land of Egypt the dust will become gnats. They do this, and when Aaron stretches out his hand with the staff and struck the dust of the ground, gnats come on people and animals. All the dust throughout the land of Egypt becomes gnats. However, when the magicians try to produce gnats by their secret arts, they can not. Since the gnats are on people and animals everywhere, the magicians inform Pharaoh that this is the finger of God. Pharaoh’s heart is hard and he will not listen, just as the Lord had said. So, then God tells Moses to arise early in the morning and confront Pharaoh as he goes to the river and tell him That the Lord says to let His people go, so that they may worship Him. And If not, God will send swarms of flies on Pharaoh and his ministers, on his subjects and into his houses. Even the ground will be covered with flies. On that day God will deal differently with the land of Goshen, where the Hebrews live; no swarms of flies will be there. This is so that Pharoah will understand that God, the Lord, is in the area. God will make a distinction between His people and your subjects. This sign will occur tomorrow. And the Lord did this. Dense swarms of flies pour into Pharaoh’s palace and into the houses of his officials; throughout Egypt the land is ruined by the flies. Pharaoh summons Moses and Aaron and tells them to go, sacrifice to their God here in the land. But Moses says that that would not be right. The sacrifices offered the Lord our God would be detestable to the Egyptians. And if the acrifices that are detestable in their eyes, will they not stone the Hebrews? They ask to be allowed to take a three-day journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices to the Lord their God, as He commands. Pharaoh says that he will let them go to offer sacrifice to the Lord their God in the wilderness, but they must not go very far ---- to pray on Pharaoh's behalf. Moses answered that as soon as he leaves, he will pray to the Lord, and tomorrow the flies will leave Pharaoh and his officials and his people. Only let Pharaoh be sure that he does not act deceitfully again by not letting the people go to offer sacrifices to the Lord. Then Moses leaves Pharaoh and prays to God, and the Lord did what Moses asked. The flies left Pharaoh and his officials and his people; not a fly remained in the area. But once more Pharaoh hardened his heart and would not let the people go.

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Go in unto Pharaoh: and thou hast said unto him, Thus said Jehovah, Send My people away, and they serve Me;

2 and if thou art refusing to send away, lo, I am smiting all thy border with frogs;

3 and the River hath teemed [with] frogs, and they have gone up and gone into thy house, and into the inner-chamber of thy bed, and on thy couch, and into the house of thy servants, and among thy people, and into thine ovens, and into thy kneading-troughs;

4 yea, on thee, and on thy people, and on all thy servants do the frogs go up.'

5 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy hand, with thy rod, against the streams, against the rivers, and against the ponds, and cause the frogs to come up against the land of Egypt.'

6 And Aaron stretcheth out his hand against the waters of Egypt, and the frog cometh up, and covereth the land of Egypt;

7 and the scribes do so with their flashings, and cause the frogs to come up against the land of Egypt.

8 And Pharaoh calleth for Moses and for Aaron, and saith, `Make supplication unto Jehovah, that he turn aside the frogs from me, and from my people, and I send the people away, and they sacrifice to Jehovah.'

9 And Moses saith to Pharaoh, `Beautify thyself over me; when do I make supplication for thee, and for thy servants, and for thy people, to cut off the frogs from thee and from thy houses -- only in the River they do remain?'

10 and he saith, `To-morrow.' And he saith, According to thy word [it is], so that thou knowest that there is none like Jehovah our God,

11 and the frogs have turned aside from thee, and from thy houses, and from thy servants, and from thy people; only in the River they do remain.'

12 And Moses -- Aaron also -- goeth out from Pharaoh, and Moses crieth unto Jehovah, concerning the matter of the frogs which He hath set on Pharaoh;

13 and Jehovah doth according to the word of Moses, and the frogs die out of the houses, out of the courts, and out of the fields,

14 and they heap them up together, and the land stinketh.

15 And Pharaoh seeth that there hath been a respite, and he hath hardened his heart, and hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken.

16 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, and it hath become gnats in all the land of Egypt.'

17 And they do so, and Aaron stretcheth out his hand with his rod, and smiteth the dust of the land, and the gnats are on man and on beast; all the dust of the land hath been gnats in all the land of Egypt.

18 And the scribes do so with their flashings, to bring out the gnats, and they have not been able, and the gnats are on man and on beast;

19 and the scribes say unto Pharaoh, `It [is] the finger of God;' and the heart of Pharaoh is strong, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken.

20 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Rise early in the morning, and station thyself before Pharaoh, lo, he is going out to the waters, and thou hast said unto him, Thus said Jehovah, Send My people away, and they serve Me;

21 for, if thou art not sending My people away, lo, I am sending against thee, and against thy servants, and against thy people, and against thy houses, the beetle, and the houses of the Egyptians have been full of the beetle, and also the ground on which they are.

22 `And I have separated in that day the land of Goshen, in which My people are staying, that the beetle is not there, so that thou knowest that I [am] Jehovah in the midst of the land,

23 and I have put a division between My people and thy people: to-morrow is this sign.'

24 And Jehovah doth so, and the grievous beetle entereth the house of Pharaoh, and the house of his servants, and in all the land of Egypt the land is corrupted from the presence of the beetle.

25 And Pharaoh calleth unto Moses and to Aaron, and saith, `Go, sacrifice to your God in the land;'

26 and Moses saith, `Not right to do so, for the abomination of the Egyptians we do sacrifice to Jehovah our God; lo, we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes -- and they do not stone us!

27 A journey of three days we go into the wilderness, and have sacrificed to Jehovah our God, as He saith unto us.'

28 And Pharaoh saith, `I send you away, and ye have sacrificed to Jehovah your God in the wilderness, only go not very far off; make ye supplication for me;'

29 and Moses saith, `Lo, I am going out from thee, and have made supplication unto Jehovah, and the beetle hath turned aside from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people -- to-morrow, only let not Pharaoh add to deceive -- in not sending the people away to sacrifice to Jehovah.'

30 And Moses goeth out from Pharaoh, and maketh supplication unto Jehovah,

31 and Jehovah doth according to the word of Moses, and turneth aside the beetle from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people -- there hath not been left one;

32 and Pharaoh hardeneth his heart also at this time, and hath not sent the people away.
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Re: Bible verse by verse

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subgenius wrote:
PrickKicker wrote:Isaac Newton: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

You are confused, Newton was talking about Physics, we are talking about more about Theology/Spiritual.

An illogical conclusion, unless you are conceding that since you are at times happy, at times sad, at times private, at times public, at times wanting, and at times giving therefore you too are full of contradiction and non sense.....which, given the evidence of your posts, is reasonable.


I know we are talking theology and spirituality.

So, YOUR God is not a PHYSICal being, and nothing he does involves physics, So When God speaks nothing happens, there is no reaction. (Physics)

Your God has no control, he is not the light that chases the darkness. (Physics) When He appears Satan doesn't flee, (action and reaction) Satan does not ask His permission to tempt people (Job1)
There is no eternal (power) struggle.

Typical Mormonism: I am always right and when I can't prove it or don't understand, I'll twist and change things to what looks best on me and my religion.

I unlike Your God don't claim to be perfect (contradiction he does suffer from alot of the issues men do, jealousy, pride, anger, and on and on, but that is just poetic writ or the mistakes of the authors.)

I can see why you call yourself subgenius.
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PrickKicker wrote:I know we are talking theology and spirituality.

that is not apparent...as we continue to see next

PrickKicker wrote:So, YOUR God is not a PHYSICal being, and nothing he does involves physics, So When God speaks nothing happens, there is no reaction. (Physics)

Not sure what you are getting at...you quipped about Newton and "equal and opposite" reactions...and without discussion it is clear that speaking is not governed by that notion. That would require that God speak Evil to the degree at which the listener would "equally react" and therefore speak Good.
Again, you are confused about the topic of discussion.

PrickKicker wrote:Your God has no control, he is not the light that chases the darkness. (Physics) When He appears Satan doesn't flee, (action and reaction) Satan does not ask His permission to tempt people (Job1)
There is no eternal (power) struggle.

if you say so, then surely it must be true. ...i mean surely you are "right" even though you can't "prove it or don't understand"

PrickKicker wrote:Typical Mormonism: I am always right and when I can't prove it or don't understand, I'll twist and change things to what looks best on me and my religion.

yawn

PrickKicker wrote:I unlike Your God don't claim to be perfect (contradiction he does suffer from a lot of the issues men do, jealousy, pride, anger, and on and on, but that is just poetic writ or the mistakes of the authors.)

glad you came by...now it makes perfect sense why you are on a Mormon discussion board...bitter, rejected, self-involved what better use for your time than expressing all of those qualities in a forum about which you believe nothing nor hold in regard any of its members...

so, exactly what are you here for?

PrickKicker wrote:I can see why you call yourself subgenius.

i really do not think you can.
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Sub, some people are like little children whom their parents discipline, but they don't understand why and become bitter and begin to hate their parents.
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I like being juvenile at times, especially when discussing fairy stories and afford everyone the same privilege.

After all your learned behaviour of 'misdirection' and 'Character assassination' is a fundamental part of Mormonism.

If some one doubts the leaders or the scriptures, it is due to sin and you then try and get that person to confess that they have done wrong thereby turning it against them.

When challenged with the impossibility of a display of Gods power, Joseph Smith used the tricks that he had learnt as a boy through his cons, mind games, misdirection and deception, preying on the trust and good nature of the good Christian folk or using the greed of the wealthy to his advantage.

As shown here...

Joseph Smith tested his followers obedience by setting small tests to see how far they would go... the BRT.

It starts with something little like reversed flattery, (I am sure I don't have to explain something as simple as this to someone as smart as you.) You don't want to appear ignorant.

then a show of reversed generosity, (Here take this, wheat or flour, pay me back when you can or better still you can work it off as I need a ditch digging.) You become the debtor.

Then there is the Obedience test, testing the extent of your loyalty...

Heber C Kimball: "Brother Joseph once told me to drive my team between two trees where one horse could not go through. I said I could not. Joseph stared at me. 'Drive through.' I jerked my reins and popped my whip. 'There,' said Joseph, 'that will do. I only wanted to see you try.'"

Joseph then went on to ask Heber C Kimball if he could marry Vilate, (Hebers wife) when he agreed, Joseph then said I was just testing you... I want your 14 year old daughter instead.

Heber agreed.

Back to character assassination...

I will give you one of the Keys of the mysteries of the Kingdom. It is an eternal principle, that has existed with God from all eternity: That man who rises up to condemn other, finding fault with the Church, saying that they are out of the way, while he himself is righteous, then know assuredly, that that man is in the high road to apostasy; and if he does not repent, will apostatize, as God lives. The principle is as correct as the one that Jesus put forth in saying that he who seeketh a sign is an adulterous person; and that principle is eternal, undeviating, and firm as the pillars of heaven; for whenever you see a man seeking after a sign, you may set it down that he is an adulterous man. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 156-157)

When I was preaching in Philadelphia, a Quaker called out for a sign. I told him to be still. After the sermon, he again asked for a sign. I told the congregation the man was an adulterer; that a wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and that the Lord had said to me in a revelation, that any man who wanted a sign was an adulterous person. "It is true," cried one, "for I caught him in the very act," which the man afterwards confessed when he was baptized. (Feb. 9, 1843.) DHC 5:268. (Teachings, p. 278)

When the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was first founded, you could see persons rise up and ask, "What sign will you show us that we may be made to believe?" I recollect a Campbellite preacher who came to Joseph Smith, I think his name was Hayden. He came in and made himself known to Joseph, and said that he had come a considerable distance to be convinced of the truth. "Why," said he, "Mr. Smith, I want to know the truth, and when I am convinced, I will spend all my talents and time in defending and spreading the doctrines of your religion, and I will give you to understand that to convince me is equivalent to convincing all my society, amounting to several hundreds." Well, Joseph commenced laying before him the coming forth of the work, and the first principles of the Gospel, when Mr. Hayden exclaimed, "O this is not the evidence I want, the evidence that I wish to have is a notable miracle; I want to see some powerful manifestation of the power of God, I want to see a notable miracle performed; and if you perform such a one, then I will believe with all my heart and soul, and will exert all my power and all my extensive influence to convince others; and if you will not perform a miracle of this kind, then I am your worst and bitterest enemy." "Well," said Joseph, "what will you have done? Will you be struck blind, or dumb? Will you be paralyzed, or will you have one hand withered? Take your choice, choose which you please, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ it shall be done." "That is not the kind of miracle I want," said the preacher. "Then, sir," replied Joseph, "I can perform none, I am not going to bring any trouble upon any body else, sir, to convince you. I will tell you what you make me think of--the very first person who asked a sign of the Savior, for it is written, in the New Testament, that Satan came to the Savior in the desert, when he was hungry with forty days' fasting, and said, "If you be the Son of God, command these stones to be made bread." "And now," said Joseph, "the children of the devil and his servants have been asking for signs ever since; and when the people in that day continued asking him for signs to prove the truth of the Gospel which he preached, the Savior replied, "It is a wicked and an adulterous generation that seeketh a sign," &c. (Journal of Discourses, Vol.2, p.326 - p.327, George Albert Smith, June 24, 1855
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Exodus 9 The Lord commands Moses to go back to Pharaoh and tell him, the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, says to let His people go to worship him. And if Pharaoh refuses the hand of the Lord will strike all Pharaoh's livestock in the field—his horses, donkeys, camels, cattle, sheep, and goats—with a deadly plague. However, the Lord will again make a distinction between the livestock of the Israelites and that of the Egyptians. Not a single one of Israel’s animals will die! The Lord has already set the time for the plague to begin. He has declared that he will strike the land starting the next day. The next morning all the livestock of the Egyptians died, but the Israelites didn’t lose a single animal. Pharaoh sent his officials to investigate, and they discovered that the Israelites had not lost a single animal! But even so, Pharaoh’s heart remained stubborn, and he still refused to let the people go. Then the Lord says to Moses and Aaron, to take handfuls of soot from a brick kiln, and Moses is to toss it into the air while Pharaoh watches. The ashes will spread like fine dust over the whole land of Egypt, causing festering boils to break out on people and animals throughout the land. This they do as Pharaoh watches and Moses throws the soot into the air, and boils break out on people and animals alike. Even the magicians were unable to stand before Moses, because the draining boils had broken out on them and all the Egyptians. But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and just as the Lord had predicted to Moses and Pharaoh refused to listen. Then the Lord tells Moses to get up early in the morning and stand before Pharaoh. Tell him, the Lord says to Let His people go, so they can worship Him, or God will even send more plagues on Pharoah, his officials and his people. Pharaoh will know that there is no one like God in all the earth. God could have lifted His hand and struck Pharaoh and His people with a plague to wipe them off the face of the earth. However has spares Pharaoh for a purpose. That purpose is to demonstrate God's power, and to spread His fame throughout the earth. However, Pharaoh is still lording it over God's people and refusing to let them go. God warns that the very next day at that time a hailstorm more devastating than any in all the history of Egypt will occur. The Lord warns to quickly order the Egyptians to get the livestock and servants out of the fields to find shelter. Any person or animal left outside will die when the hail falls. Some of Pharaoh’s officials were afraid because of what the Lord had said. They quickly brought their servants and livestock in from the fields. But those who paid no attention to the word of the Lord left theirs out in the open. Then the Lord told Moses to Lift hands toward the sky so hail would fall on the people, the livestock, and all the plants throughout the land of Egypt. This Moses does and the Lord sends thunder and hail, and lightning flashes toward the earth. The Lord sent a terrific hailstorm across the land of Egypt. Never in all the history of Egypt had there been a storm like it, with such devastating hail and continuous lightning. All of Egypt is left in ruins. The hail struck down everything in the open field—people, animals, and plants alike. Even the trees were destroyed. The only place without hail was the region of Goshen, where the Hebrews live. Then Pharaoh quickly summons Moses and Aaron. Pharaoh tells them this time he has sinned. Pharaoh confesses that the Lord is the righteous one, and His people and himself are wrong. Pharaoh asks Moses to please beg the Lord to end this terrifying thunder and hail --- enough is enough. Pharaoh will let the Hebrews go and not stay any longer. Moses replies that as soon as he leaves the city, he will lift his hands and pray to the Lord --- the thunder and hail will stop. Pharaoh will know that the entire earth belongs to God. Moses also says to Pharaoh that he realizes that Pharaoh and his officials still do not fear the Lord God. (All the flax and barley were ruined by the hail, because the barley had formed heads and the flax was budding. But the wheat and the emmer wheat were spared, because they had not yet sprouted from the ground.) So Moses left Pharaoh’s court and goes out of the city. As he lifts his hands to the Lord, the thunder and hail stop, and the downpour ceases. However, when Pharaoh sees that the rain, hail, and thunder have stopped, he and his officials sin again, and Pharaoh again becomes stubborn. Because his heart is hard, Pharaoh refuses to let the people leave, just as the Lord had predicted through Moses to Pharaoh and his court...


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Go in unto Pharaoh, and thou hast spoken unto him, Thus said Jehovah, God of the Hebrews, Send My people away, and they serve me,

2 for, if thou art refusing to send away, and art still keeping hold upon them,

3 lo, the hand of Jehovah is on thy cattle which [are] in the field, on horses, on asses, on camels, on herd, and on flock -- a pestilence very grievous.

4 `And Jehovah hath separated between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there doth not die a thing of all the sons of Israel's;

5 and Jehovah setteth an appointed time, saying, To-morrow doth Jehovah do this thing in the land.'

6 And Jehovah doth this thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt die, and of the cattle of the sons of Israel not one hath died;

7 and Pharaoh sendeth, and lo, not even one of the cattle of Israel hath died, and the heart of Pharaoh is hard, and he hath not sent the people away.

8 And Jehovah saith unto Moses and unto Aaron, `Take to you the fulness of your hands [of] soot of a furnace, and Moses hath sprinkled it towards the heavens, before the eyes of Pharaoh,

9 and it hath become small dust over all the land of Egypt, and it hath become on man and on cattle a boil breaking forth [with] blains, in all the land of Egypt.'

10 And they take the soot of the furnace, and stand before Pharaoh, and Moses sprinkleth it towards the heavens, and it is a boil [with] blains, breaking forth, on man and on beast;

11 and the scribes have not been able to stand before Moses, because of the boil, for the boil hath been on the scribes, and on all the Egyptians.

12 And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken unto Moses.

13 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Rise early in the morning, and station thyself before Pharaoh, and thou hast said unto him, Thus said Jehovah, God of the Hebrews, Send My people away, and they serve Me,

14 for, at this time I am sending all My plagues unto thy heart, and on thy servants, and on thy people, so that thou knowest that there is none like Me in all the earth,

15 for now I have put forth My hand, and I smite thee, and thy people, with pestilence, and thou art hidden from the earth.

16 `And yet for this I have caused thee to stand, so as to show thee My power, and for the sake of declaring My Name in all the earth;

17 still thou art exalting thyself against My people -- so as not to send them away;

18 lo, I am raining about [this] time to-morrow hail very grievous, such as hath not been in Egypt, even from the day of its being founded, even until now.

19 `And, now, send, strengthen thy cattle and all that thou hast in the field; every man and beast which is found in the field, and is not gathered into the house -- come down on them hath the hail, and they have died.'

20 He who is fearing the word of Jehovah among the servants of Pharaoh hath caused his servants and his cattle to flee unto the houses;

21 and he who hath not set his heart unto the word of Jehovah leaveth his servants and his cattle in the field.

22 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Stretch forth thy hand towards the heavens, and there is hail in all the land of Egypt, on man, and on beast, and on every herb of the field in the land of Egypt.'

23 And Moses stretcheth out his rod towards the heavens, and Jehovah hath given voices and hail, and fire goeth towards the earth, and Jehovah raineth hail on the land of Egypt,

24 and there is hail, and fire catching itself in the midst of the hail, very grievous, such as hath not been in all the land of Egypt since it hath become a nation.

25 And the hail smiteth in all the land of Egypt all that [is] in the field, from man even unto beast, and every herb of the field hath the hail smitten, and every tree of the field it hath broken;

26 only in the land of Goshen, where the sons of Israel [are], there hath been no hail.

27 And Pharaoh sendeth, and calleth for Moses and for Aaron, and saith unto them, `I have sinned this time, Jehovah [is] the Righteous, and I and my people [are] the Wicked,

28 make ye supplication unto Jehovah, and plead that there be no voices of God and hail, and I send you away, and ye add not to remain.'

29 And Moses saith unto him, `At my going out of the city, I spread my palms unto Jehovah -- the voices cease, and the hail is not any more, so that thou knowest that the earth [is] Jehovah's;

30 but thou and thy servants -- I have known that ye are not yet afraid of the face of Jehovah God.'

31 And the flax and the barley have been smitten, for the barley [is] budding, and the flax forming flowers,

32 and the wheat and the rye have not been smitten, for they are late.

33 And Moses goeth out from Pharaoh, [from] the city, and spreadeth his hands unto Jehovah, and the voices and the hail cease, and rain hath not been poured out to the earth;

34 and Pharaoh seeth that the rain hath ceased, and the hail and the voices, and he continueth to sin, and hardeneth his heart, he and his servants;

35 and the heart of Pharaoh is strong, and he hath not sent the sons of Israel away, as Jehovah hath spoken by the hand of Moses.
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9 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Go in unto Pharaoh,
Doesn't that mean have sex with?

12 And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not hearkened unto them,
Opp's there it is again, 1 time a mistake, 2 times coincidence?

Jehovah was proactive in those days, with his signs and wonders.

& mid summer there was hail!!! I wonder who has pissed God off, here in England.
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PrickKicker wrote:
9 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Go in unto Pharaoh,
Doesn't that mean have sex with?

12 And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not hearkened unto them,
Opp's there it is again, 1 time a mistake, 2 times coincidence?

Jehovah was proactive in those days, with his signs and wonders.

& mid summer there was hail!!! I wonder who has pissed God off, here in England.

Who in England hasn't? Prince Harry? :lol:
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Re: Bible verse by verse

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Exodus 10:1-29 The Lord tells Moses to go visit Pharaoh ---God hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that God will perform these signs among them. Moses may tell his children and grandchildren how God dealt harshly with the Egyptians and performed His signs among them, and know that God is the Lord. Moses and Aaron go to Pharaoh and say to him, the Lord, the God of the Hebrews is asking for how long will Pharaoh refuse to humble himself before God? Let the choosen people go, so that they may worship the Lord. If refused locusts will be brought into Egypt tomorrow. They will cover the face of the ground so that it cannot be seen. They will devour what little is left after the hail, including every tree that is growing in the fields. They will fill Pharaoh's houses and those of all his officials and all the Egyptians—something none of the ancestors have ever seen from the day they settled in Egypt until now. Then Moses turned and left Pharaoh. Pharaoh’s officials ask how long will this man be a snare? They suggest to let the people go, so that they may worship the Lord their God. They ask Pharaoh if he doesn't realize that Egypt totalyl ruined? Moses and Aaron are brought back to Pharaoh who says to go, worship the Lord their God === but whats wo know who will be going. Moses answers that the young and the old, their sons and their daughters, and their flocks and herds, because they are to celebrate a festival to the Lord. Pharaoh reasoned that the Lord be with them -- if he let's them go, along with the women and children! Pharaoh thinks Moses is bent on evil. No! Only the men may go and worship the Lord, since that’s what you have been asking for. Then Moses and Aaron are driven out of Pharaoh’s presence. The Lord said to Moses to stretch out his hand over Egypt so that locusts will swarm over the land and devour everything growing in the fields, everything left by the hail. So does Moses stretched and the Lord causes an east wind to blow across the land all that day and all that night. By morning the wind had brought the locusts. They invaded all Egypt and settled down in every area of the country in great numbers. Never before had there been such a plague of locusts, nor will there ever be again. They covered all the ground until it was black. They devoured all that was left after the hail—everything growing in the fields and the fruit on the trees. Nothing green remained on tree or plant in all the land of Egypt. Pharaoh quickly summons Moses and Aaron and says he has sinned against the Lord their God and against them also --- forgive this sin once more and pray to the Lord their God to take this deadly plague away. Moses leaves Pharaoh and prays to the Lord. And the Lord changed the wind to a very strong west wind, which caught up the locusts, taking them into the Red Sea. Not a locust was left anywhere in Egypt. But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go. Then the Lord tells Moses to stretch out his hand toward the sky so that darkness spreads over Egypt—darkness that can be felt. So Moses stretchs out his hand toward the sky, and total darkness covers all Egypt for three days. No one could see anyone else or move about for three days. Yet only the Israelites had light in the places where they lived. Then Pharaoh summons Moses and says to go, worship the Lord. Even the women and children may go but the flocks and herds are to remain behind. But Moses says that Pharaoh must allow the Hebrews to have sacrifices and burnt offerings to present to the Lord God. The livestock too must go --- not a hoof is to be left behind. They are to use some of them in worshiping the Lord God, and until they get there they will not know what they are to use to worship the Lord. But the Lord hardens Pharaoh’s heart, and he will not willing to let them go. Pharaoh tells Moses, to get out of his sight --- not to appear again or he will be killed! Moses replied. “I will never appear before you again.”


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Go in unto Pharaoh, for I have declared hard his heart, and the heart of his servants, so that I set these My signs in their midst,

2 and so that thou recountest in the ears of thy son, and of thy son's son, that which I have done in Egypt, and My signs which I have set among them, and ye have known that I [am] Jehovah.'

3 And Moses cometh in -- Aaron also -- unto Pharaoh, and they say unto him, `Thus said Jehovah, God of the Hebrews, Until when hast thou refused to be humbled at My presence? send My people away, and they serve Me,

4 for if thou art refusing to send My people away, lo, I am bringing in to-morrow the locust into thy border,

5 and it hath covered the eye of the land, and none is able to see the land, and it hath eaten the remnant of that which is escaped, which is left to you from the hail, and it hath eaten every tree which is springing for you out of the field;

6 and they have filled thy houses, and the houses of all thy servants, and the houses of all the Egyptians, which neither thy fathers nor thy father's fathers have seen, since the day of their being on the ground unto this day,' -- and he turneth and goeth out from Pharaoh.

7 And the servants of Pharaoh say unto him, `Until when doth this [one] become a snare to us? send the men away, and they serve Jehovah their God; knowest thou not yet that Egypt hath perished?'

8 And Moses is brought back -- Aaron also -- unto Pharaoh, and he saith unto them, `Go, serve Jehovah your God; -- who and who [are] those going?'

9 And Moses saith, `With our young ones, and with our aged ones, we go, with our sons, and with our daughters, with our flock, and our herd, we go, for we have a festival to Jehovah.'

10 And he saith unto them, `Be it so, Jehovah [be] with you when I send you and your infants away; see -- for evil [is] before your faces;

11 not so! go now, ye who [are] men, and serve Jehovah, for that ye are seeking;' and [one] casteth them out from the presence of Pharaoh.

12 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Stretch out thy hand against the land of Egypt for the locust, and it goeth up against the land of Egypt, and doth eat every herb of the land -- all that the hail hath left.'

13 And Moses stretcheth out his rod against the land of Egypt, and Jehovah hath led an east wind over the land all that day, and all the night; the morning hath been, and the east wind hath lifted up the locust.

14 And the locust goeth up against all the land of Egypt, and resteth in all the border of Egypt -- very grievous: before it there hath not been such a locust as it, and after it there is none such;

15 and it covereth the eye of all the land, and the land is darkened; and it eateth every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail hath left, and there hath not been left any green thing in the trees, or in the herb of the field, in all the land of Egypt.'

16 And Pharaoh hasteth to call for Moses and for Aaron, and saith, `I have sinned against Jehovah your God, and against you,

17 and now, bear with, I pray you, my sin, only this time, and make ye supplication to Jehovah your God, that He turn aside from off me only this death.'

18 And he goeth out from Pharaoh, and maketh supplication unto Jehovah,

19 and Jehovah turneth a very strong sea wind, and it lifteth up the locust, and bloweth it into the Red Sea -- there hath not been left one locust in all the border of Egypt;

20 and Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not sent the sons of Israel away.

21 And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Stretch out thy hand towards the heavens, and there is darkness over the land of Egypt, and the darkness is felt.'

22 And Moses stretcheth out his hand towards the heavens, and there is darkness -- thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days;

23 they have not seen one another, and none hath risen from his place three days; and to all the sons of Israel there hath been light in their dwellings.'

24 And Pharaoh calleth unto Moses and saith, `Go ye, serve Jehovah, only your flock and your herd are stayed, your infants also go with you;'

25 and Moses saith, `Thou also dost give in our hand sacrifices and burnt-offerings, and we have prepared for Jehovah our God;

26 and also our cattle doth go with us, there is not left a hoof, for from it we do take to serve Jehovah our God; and we -- we know not how we do serve Jehovah till our going thither.'

27 And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not been willing to send them away;

28 and Pharaoh saith to him, `Go from me, take heed to thyself, add not to see my face, for in the day thou seest my face thou diest;'

29 and Moses saith, `Rightly hast thou spoken, I add not any more to see thy face.'
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Re: Bible verse by verse

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27 And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not been willing to send them away;


Opp's there it is... 3 times is no coincidence, I'm beginning to smell Equestrine Excrement.
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