Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Drifting wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:What would one expect to find 4 to 5 thousand years after a world wide flood? Fossils everywhere --- certainly. Multiple geologic layers of sediment ----- absolutely. Areas wept clean of vegetation and left to become arid wasteland --- frankly yes. Continued earthquakes because of cracked and buckled tetonic plates --- be a fool not to imagine so. Canyons gouged out by standing water runoff --- nothing less. Need one go on? The simple fact is, that the mind that will not accept the Flood simply creates "rational" explanations that fit some other expectation. And where was this developed? By secularists and atheists outside the universities. The christians that reject the Flood simply do not wish to seem less than "modern" in their thinking. Everyone loves an atheist. They can be the social life of the party.


Would it be fair to expect that a civilisation such as....let's say the Egyptians...who were in existence prior to the flood to have been totally wiped out and therefore not in existence after the flood?

What if one of Noah's daughters-in-law was an Egyptian or lived in that general area? There is some suggestion that the sphinx was originally constructed pre-Flood and was changed in appearance years later. Please see: http://www.gira.ca/cmsms/index.php?page=pre-flood
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Nipper, your source seems to have a pre determined opinion and is trying to manipulate evidence to fit that which they already believe.

We believe: that the Bible is the Word of God, that God created the earth millions of years ago, that the origin of sin occurred during the first day, that God created Man in adult form about 6000 years ago and that the worldwide Flood of Noah took place about 4500 years ago. These beliefs are the product of significant Biblical and scientific research, much of which is presented on this web-site.


The specific page that you linked to is desperately trying to show that there were civilizations in existence before the flood...
Archaeological Evidences of Pre-Flood Civilizations

...but that wasn't the question.

The question was, why do these pre flood civilisations (all of them) not demonstrate a significant period when they were totally wiped out and before the area had been settled (which could only have happened in the last 6,000 years for every civilization currently in existence if the flood happened and happened circa 2,300 bc).

Now if you can deal with the actual question, that'd be swell...
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Drifting wrote:Nipper, your source seems to have a pre determined opinion and is trying to manipulate evidence to fit that which they already believe.

We believe: that the Bible is the Word of God, that God created the earth millions of years ago, that the origin of sin occurred during the first day, that God created Man in adult form about 6000 years ago and that the worldwide Flood of Noah took place about 4500 years ago. These beliefs are the product of significant Biblical and scientific research, much of which is presented on this web-site.


Please see: http://genesismission.4t.com/Flood/Sphinx.html

The very same is true of evolutionists. They build on the premises of their professors and employers. I do not believe eveything anybody says except for God through the Bible. God surely created Adam as a perfect 30 year old prototype complete --- likely with a navel. I see no reason that Adam didn't look upon an earth that appeared to have taken millions of years to establish but had existed for less than one week. Marble, slate, granite, quartz --- would have existed fully formed.
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LittleNipper wrote:Please see: http://genesismission.4t.com/Flood/Sphinx.html

The very same is true of evolutionists. They build on the premises of their professors and employers. I do not believe eveything anybody says except for God through the Bible. God surely created Adam as a perfect 30 year old prototype complete --- likely with a navel. I see no reason that Adam didn't look upon an earth that appeared to have taken millions of years to establish but had existed for less than one week. Marble, slate, granite, quartz --- would have existed fully formed.



You are still missing the point.
A global flood would not have eroded the Sphinx the way it has been eroded.
It would take thousands of years of rainfall and as we know from the Bible, it all happened in just over a month.
A submerged Sphinx would not have eroded in the way it has been eroded.
Go to the beach, build a limestone sphinx (scaled down obviously). Submerge it in a bucket of seawater for forty days and see how it works out.

The entire planet was supposedly wiped out in a period of forty days.
It was then supposedly repopulated solely by the people on the Ark.
If true, Noah's daughters in law would have been very busy and very sore...
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Drifting wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Please see: http://genesismission.4t.com/Flood/Sphinx.html

The very same is true of evolutionists. They build on the premises of their professors and employers. I do not believe eveything anybody says except for God through the Bible. God surely created Adam as a perfect 30 year old prototype complete --- likely with a navel. I see no reason that Adam didn't look upon an earth that appeared to have taken millions of years to establish but had existed for less than one week. Marble, slate, granite, quartz --- would have existed fully formed.



You are still missing the point.
A global flood would not have eroded the Sphinx the way it has been eroded.
It would take thousands of years of rainfall and as we know from the Bible, it all happened in just over a month.
A submerged Sphinx would not have eroded in the way it has been eroded.
Go to the beach, build a limestone sphinx (scaled down obviously). Submerge it in a bucket of seawater for forty days and see how it works out.

The entire planet was supposedly wiped out in a period of forty days.
It was then supposedly repopulated solely by the people on the Ark.
If true, Noah's daughters in law would have been very busy and very sore...


You are thinking far too much. The Sphinx was remodeled at some point after the Flood and likely not for several hundred years after the Flood. It was likely something was left there and reconstructed. One must understand that the only thing most people did for enjoyment was have sex. The were no TVs, telephones, Phonographs, magazines, newspapers, concerts. Even if one says that each son of Noah had only 8 children each ---- and those 24 had a total of 96 children ---- who then those had 384 children. That would mean that in only about 3 generations that some 568 people might be living on the earth.
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Drifting wrote:So, a Prophecy is a Prediction made whilst listening to voices in your head/tummy. Got it.

clearly you still misunderstand divine communication.
as long as you consider a "voice in the head" or "feeling in the tummy" to be divine communication you will always be "deaf" to reality.
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LittleNipper wrote:You are thinking far too much. The Sphinx was remodeled at some point after the Flood and likely not for several hundred years after the Flood. It was likely something was left there and reconstructed.


So they remodelled it after the flood but did so in a way that left the erosion marks from the flood? :lol:
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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:So, a Prophecy is a Prediction made whilst listening to voices in your head/tummy. Got it.

clearly you still misunderstand divine communication.
as long as you consider a "voice in the head" or "feeling in the tummy" to be divine communication you will always be "deaf" to reality.


So...how does God make His divine communication clearly distinct for you?
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Drifting wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:You are thinking far too much. The Sphinx was remodeled at some point after the Flood and likely not for several hundred years after the Flood. It was likely something was left there and reconstructed.


So they remodelled it after the flood but did so in a way that left the erosion marks from the flood? :lol:


Both new sand and rain erosion has occurred since the Flood and some earlier damage would be rerevealed over the centuries. In fact the Sphinx has been repaired/reconstructed several times. He who laughs last ...
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LittleNipper wrote:Both new sand and rain erosion has occurred since the Flood and some earlier damage would be rerevealed over the centuries. In fact the Sphinx has been repaired/reconstructed several times. He who laughs last ...


Then you have no idea what damage was done to the Sphynx nor when it was done. You are really bizarre sometimes.
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