The Church's PR firm

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_Dcharle
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The Church's PR firm

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Taken from the Salamander Society wed site:

"Hiring Edelman World Wide Public Relations specifically for the task of mainstreaming and marketing the gospel product. Hinckley specifically selected a firm with non-Mormon leadership in order to accomplish this task. He wanted a fresher and more effective PR approach than what he was getting out of his own Mormon PR staff. Ironic, that Hinckley selected a "Jewish" PR company to promote his "Mormon Christian Mainstream" PR campaign.
Michael Deaver, Vice Chairman, Edelman Worldwide Director of Corporate Affairs, Edelman Washington, D.C. who served as President Ronald Reagan's deputy chief of staff from 1981 to 1985 is the LDS Church Account client representative. He flies out to Salt Lake City monthly to meet with Dallin Oaks and Bruce Olsen, the church's main inside PR staffer.
Maybe some professional PR person could provide an educated estimate as to how much the church pays Edelman World Wide annually for their services?
It appears to be no coincidence that the chairman of the board, Daniel Edelman's wife is a close friend of Larry King, the CNN talk show host.
The famous Larry King - Gordon Hinckley TV interviews did not just happen accidentally. The same goes for the positive "Sixty Minutes" piece Mike Wallace did on Hinckley and the church several years ago. There is nothing illegal or even unethical about this behind the scenes PR work, but it sure does blur the boundary between what is actually news and what is actually a PR infommercial for the church."
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Re: The Church's PR firm

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Given that the Larry King interview was stage managed by the Church itself, what a terrible job they did!

"I don't know that we teach that..."
"No caffeine..."

Both statements have now been shown to be false.

That God uses a spokesman who needs a spokesman should tell us something...
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Re: The Church's PR firm

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Dcharle wrote:Taken from the Salamander Society wed site:

oh, so nothing credible or logical will follow....thanks for the heads-up

Dcharle wrote:"Hiring Edelman World Wide Public Relations specifically for the task of mainstreaming and marketing the gospel product. Hinckley specifically selected a firm with non-Mormon leadership in order to accomplish this task. He wanted a fresher and more effective PR approach than what he was getting out of his own Mormon PR staff. Ironic, that Hinckley selected a "Jewish" PR company to promote his "Mormon Christian Mainstream" PR campaign.
Michael Deaver, Vice Chairman, Edelman Worldwide Director of Corporate Affairs, Edelman Washington, D.C. who served as President Ronald Reagan's deputy chief of staff from 1981 to 1985 is the LDS Church Account client representative. He flies out to Salt Lake City monthly to meet with Dallin Oaks and Bruce Olsen, the church's main inside PR staffer.
Maybe some professional PR person could provide an educated estimate as to how much the church pays Edelman World Wide annually for their services?
It appears to be no coincidence that the chairman of the board, Daniel Edelman's wife is a close friend of Larry King, the CNN talk show host.
The famous Larry King - Gordon Hinckley TV interviews did not just happen accidentally. The same goes for the positive "Sixty Minutes" piece Mike Wallace did on Hinckley and the church several years ago. There is nothing illegal or even unethical about this behind the scenes PR work, but it sure does blur the boundary between what is actually news and what is actually a PR infommercial for the church."

accidental interviews??
are those common with 60 minutes? Larry King?
Does this post actual have even a cursory knowledge of how PR Firms, Press Releases, TV Magazine interviews, etc. work in our modern age?

oh and for what Hinckley allegedly "wanted" as you have noted in the OP, how about a little CFR?
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Drifting wrote:That God uses a spokesman who needs a spokesman should tell us something...

and what is that "something"?
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Re: The Church's PR firm

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I think it was John Bytheway or possibly another media man for the LDS church, who once said that he did some proof reading for some of the apostles conference talks (Sanitisation) and used it to impress the ladies pretending that he was inspired through the Holy Ghost and revelation.

Funny how revelation needs sanitisation? perhaps that is why Joseph Smith needed scribes?
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PrickKicker wrote:I think it was John Bytheway or possibly another media man for the LDS church, who once said that he did some proof reading for some of the apostles conference talks (Sanitisation) and used it to impress the ladies pretending that he was inspired through the Holy Ghost and revelation.

Funny how revelation needs sanitisation? perhaps that is why Joseph Smith needed scribes?

CFR
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subgenius wrote:
PrickKicker wrote:I think it was John Bytheway or possibly another media man for the LDS church, who once said that he did some proof reading for some of the apostles conference talks (Sanitisation) and used it to impress the ladies pretending that he was inspired through the Holy Ghost and revelation.

Funny how revelation needs sanitisation? perhaps that is why Joseph Smith needed scribes?

CFR

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http://www.amazon.com/The-John-Bytheway-Collection/dp/159038993X

Help yourself...

I remember hearing it on a talk tape on my mission.
So can't really CFR an audio tape that I had 15 years ago can I?

Or are you asking for CFR that Joseph Smith needed scribes?

How much of the Book of Mormon was written by Joseph? -None.

Who acted as scribes, while he babbled with his face buried in a hat?...

Cowdery, Oliver
Bullock, Thomas
Clayton, William
Coray, Howard
Cowdery, Warren A.
Gilbert, A. Sidney
Grimshaw, Johnathan
Reuben Hale
Hawkins, Leo
Hyde, Orson
Mulholland, James
Parrish, Warren
Hitchcock, Jesse
Parrish, Warren
Partridge, Edward
Phelps, W. W.
Pratt, Orson
Pratt, Parley P.
Richards, Willard
Rigdon, Sidney
Robinson, George W.
Sloan, James
Smith, Emma
Smith, Joseph Sr.
Smith, Samuel H.
Smith, Sylvester
Thompson, Robert B.
Whitmer, John
Whitney, Newel K.
Williams, Frederick G.

No wonder there are so many records all with different writing styles, how many of them were highly religious and knew the Bible inside out?

http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/n/scribes.phtml
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