No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Well, gdemetz, I understand even Hitler loved his dog and made the trains run on time.
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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gdemetz wrote:You've been hearing and reading to much tabloid type anti Mormon material, Albion. It seems to be blinding your mind to all the good he as well as the TRUE church has, and is still doing!


I hate to repeat myself but you are right... The Church does do a lot of good in the world... But that doesn't make it true.
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Obviously if you have no faith in God it doesn't matter, but from the Christian perspective it also does a lot of harm...leading people away from a saving knowledge of Christ and into a false hope of an add on salvation based upon works and the religious system of a false prophet.
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Albion wrote:Obviously if you have no faith in God it doesn't matter, but from the Christian perspective it also does a lot of harm...leading people away from a saving knowledge of Christ and into a false hope of an add on salvation based upon works and the religious system of a false prophet.


If we are so "false".... Why is it that YOU are the one who's so "insecure" that he spends his life trying to debunk us, but in fact actually simply follows satan by falsely representing us? [non-Celestial accusation deleted].

True religion isn't so offended by "other believers" who might be as "ignorant children" without authority.

Guess who said it??? Christ himself in Mark 9 & Luke 9.....!!!
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Put it down to being concerned about your eternal destiny. Full and complete salvation is in Christ Jesus only not in false prophets and the religious systems they create.
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An add on question. You may not like my disagreeing with you and my differing opinion but where have I "falsely" misrepresented you?
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Concern over our eternal destiny? Despite the false propaganda put out by those who practice priestcraft in fear of their material livelihood, We Mormons ARE Christians and have accepted Christ as our Savior! Which even according to that false doctrine would make us "saved." On the other hand, those who do not follow Christ's teachings about salvation, but still claim to "believe," (as even the devils do) are the ones who should be concerned with their own salvation!
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gdemetz wrote:Concern over our eternal destiny? Despite the false propaganda put out by those who practice priestcraft in fear of their material livelihood, We Mormons ARE Christians and have accepted Christ as our Savior! Which even according to that false doctrine would make us "saved." On the other hand, those who do not follow Christ's teachings about salvation, but still claim to "believe," (as even the devils do) are the ones who should be concerned with their own salvation!



Mormons depend on their own works rather than depending on Jesus and aren't saved

The third man in this video protrays a Mormon while last man would be Evangelic Christian

http://youtu.be/XrLzYw6ULYw
Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Mittens, you are wrong again, as usual! "Mormons" depend on Jesus, which is our very first principle of the gospel-"faith in Christ," however, unlike you evangelicals who give much lip service about your belief, we show our faith by our works as James stated! "If thou wilt enter into life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS {WORKS}." Jesus Christ
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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You are right, Mittens. If you take the Mormon claim of sun, moon and stars as representing three heavens you would have to take it one step farther and assume there are more than three heavens because the stars mentioned are indicated as having differing glories one from another. Glories simply does not translate to heavens in this passage which is all about comparisons of an earthly form, the human body, with that same body when it is resurrected to glory...it will be different just as the sun is different, just as the moon is different, just as the stars are different, with even the stars having differing brightness. It's a clear cut case of misinterpreting scripture to fit Joseph Smith's claims rather than verifying Smith's claims against scripture.
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