No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15

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Albion, if you understood the Mormon Doctrine correctly, then you would know that the kingdom with varying individual glories was only the telestial kingdom! Have you or Mittens had any revelations lately to describe the three heavens?
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gdemetz wrote:Albion, if you understood the Mormon Doctrine correctly, then you would know that the kingdom with varying individual glories was only the telestial kingdom! Have you or Mittens had any revelations lately to describe the three heavens?


I thought that Mormon Doctrine taught that the Celestial Kingdom had differing glories within it?
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Albion, Albion, there is a lot more evidence pointing to three heavens and three glories than the layer cake idea that you presented. Show me from the Bible something that supports any of your concepts! Show me something that stats "Ye are not gods," or there is not "three glories," of that one can be saved without works or "keeping the commandments," or that Christ is the ONLY "melchezedek priesthood holder," or that we can not become "priests and kings, " or anything that you have come up with here!!!

Drifting, you are right. The church does teach three levels in the celestial kingdom, but it also teaches three heavens and three glories.
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gdemetz wrote:Drifting, you are right. The church does teach three levels in the celestial kingdom, but it also teaches three heavens and three glories.


Is that nine heavens then?
Tel 1,2 &3
Ter 1,2 &3
Cel 1,2 &3

Or is it five heavens?
Tel 1
Ter 1
Cel 1,2 &3

Because it's all very confusing...
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Drifting, I know of no teaching which teaches distinct levels among the two lower kingdoms, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were such.
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Matthew chapter 20 tells us only one Heaven
Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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gdemetz wrote:Concern over our eternal destiny? Despite the false propaganda put out by those who practice priestcraft in fear of their material livelihood, We Mormons ARE Christians and have accepted Christ as our Savior! Which even according to that false doctrine would make us "saved." On the other hand, those who do not follow Christ's teachings about salvation, but still claim to "believe," (as even the devils do) are the ones who should be concerned with their own salvation!


Christians (non-Mormon) have accepted Christ and yet LDS do not believe they will be saved and with God UNLESS they have the LDS ordinances performed on their behalf.

Pot...kettle...all that jazz.
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gdemetz wrote:Drifting, I know of no teaching which teaches distinct levels among the two lower kingdoms, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were such.


The afterlife is beginning to sound like a MLM...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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