The body is the physical/material part --- that which we see. The soul is our personality, likes/dislikes and life force. Our spirit is the god connection or what manipulates us as individuals. Are we God connected or demonically connected. The spirit is what died in Adam and Eve when they ate of the forbidden fruit. The connection was unplugged as it were. The spirit is our motivation and drive.
Exodus 26:1-37 The construction of the Tabernacle will be as such --- from ten curtains of finely woven linen. They are to decorate the curtains with blue, purple, and scarlet thread and with skillfully embroidered angel design. These ten curtains are all to be exactly the same size—42 feet long and 6 feet wide. They are to join five of these curtains together to make one long curtain, then join the other five into an additional long curtain. They are to place loops of blue yarn along the edge of the last curtain in each set. The fifty loops along the edge of one curtain are to match the fifty loops along the edge of the other curtain. Then they are to fabicate fifty gold clasps and fasten the long curtains together with the clasps. In this way, the Tabernacle can be made of one continuous piece. They are to make eleven curtains of goat-hair cloth to serve as a tent covering for the Tabernacle. These eleven curtains must all be exactly the same size—45 feet long and 6 feet wide. The Hebrews are to join five of these curtains together to make one long curtain, and join the other six into a second long curtain --- allowing 3 feet of material from the second set of curtains to hang over the front of this sacred tent. They are to make fifty loops for one edge of each large curtain and fifty bronze clasps, and fasten the loops of the long curtains with these clasps. In this way, the tent covering will become one continuous piece. The remaining 3 feet of this tent covering will be left to hang over the back of the Tabernacle. The Hebrews are to allow 18 inches of remaining material to hang down over each side, so the Tabernacle is completely covered. They are complete the tent covering with a protective layer of tanned ram skins and a layer of fine goatskin leather. For the framework of the Tabernacle, they are to construct frames of acacia wood. Each frame must be 15 feet high and 27 inches wide, with two pegs under each frame. The frames are to be all alike. They are to construct twenty of these frames to support the curtains on the south side of the Tabernacle, along with forty silver bases—two bases under each frame, with the pegs fitting securely into the bases. They are to duplicate this process for the north side of the Tabernacle, The Hebrews are to construct six frames for the rear—the west side of the Tabernacle— along with two additional frames for reinforce of the rear corners of the Tabernacle. These corner frames must match at the bottom and firmly attached at the top with a single ring, forming a single corner unit. Make both of these corner units the same way. So there will be eight frames at the rear of the Tabernacle, set in sixteen silver bases—two bases under each frame. Thw Hebrews are to fabricate crossbars of acacia wood to link the frames, five crossbars for the north side of the Tabernacle and five for the south side. Also, another five crossbars for the rear of the Tabernacle, which will face to the west. The middle crossbar, attached halfway up the frames, will run all the way from one end of the Tabernacle to the other. These frames are to be overlaid with gold, and make gold rings to hold the crossbars, overlaying the crossbars with gold as well. They are to set up this Tabernacle according to the pattern shown on the mountain. Inside of the Tabernacle, they are to make a special curtain of finely woven linen. Decorate it with blue, purple, and scarlet thread and with skillfully embroidered angels. This curtain is to hang on gold hooks attached to four posts of acacia wood. They are to overlay the posts with gold, and set them in four silver bases, hanging the inner curtain from clasps, and put the Ark of the Covenant in the room veiled by it. This curtain will separate the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place. The Ark’s cover—the place of atonement— will be set on top of the Ark of the Covenant inside the Most Holy Place. Place the table outside the inner curtain on the north side of the Tabernacle, and place the lampstand across the room on the south side. They are to fabricate another curtain for the entrance to the sacred tent, making it of finely woven linen and embroider it with exquisite designs, using blue, purple, and scarlet thread. They are to cut five posts from acacia wood and overlay them with gold, and hang the curtain from them with gold hooks. They are to cast five bronze bases for the posts.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 `And thou dost make the tabernacle: ten curtains of twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet; [with] cherubs, work of a designer, thou dost make them;
2 the length of the one curtain [is] eight and twenty by the cubit, and the breadth of the one curtain four by the cubit, one measure [is] to all the curtains;
3 five of the curtains are joining one unto another, and five curtains are joining one to another.
4 `And thou hast made loops of blue upon the edge of the one curtain, at the end in the joining; and so thou makest in the edge of the outermost curtain, in the joining of the second.
5 fifty loops thou dost make in the one curtain, and fifty loops thou dost make in the edge of the curtain which [is] in the joining of the second, causing the loops to take hold one unto another;
6 and thou hast made fifty hooks of gold, and hast joined the curtains one to another by the hooks, and the tabernacle hath been one.
7 `And thou hast made curtains of goats' [hair], for a tent over the tabernacle; thou dost make eleven curtains:
8 the length of the one curtain [is] thirty by the cubit, and the breadth of the one curtain four by the cubit; one measure [is] to the eleven curtains;
9 and thou hast joined the five curtains apart, and the six curtains apart, and hast doubled the six curtains over-against the front of the tent.
10 `And thou hast made fifty loops on the edge of the one curtain, the outermost in the joining, and fifty loops on the edge of the curtain which is joining the second;
11 and thou hast made fifty hooks of brass, and hast brought in the hooks into the loops, and hast joined the tent, and it hath been one.
12 `And the superfluity in the curtains of the tent -- the half of the curtain which is superfluous -- hath spread over the hinder part of the tabernacle;
13 and the cubit on this side, and the cubit on that, in the superfluity in the length of the curtains of the tent, is spread out over the sides of the tabernacle, on this and on that, to cover it;
14 and thou hast made a covering for the tent, of rams' skins made red, and a covering of badgers' skins above.
15 `And thou hast made the boards for the tabernacle, of shittim wood, standing up;
16 ten cubits [is] the length of the board, and a cubit and a half the breadth of the one board;
17 two handles [are] to the one board, joined one unto another; so thou dost make for all the boards of the tabernacle;
18 and thou hast made the boards of the tabernacle: twenty boards for the south side southward;
19 and forty sockets of silver thou dost make under the twenty boards, two sockets under the one board for its two handles, and two sockets under the other board for its two handles.
20 `And for the second side of the tabernacle, for the north side, [are] twenty boards,
21 and their forty sockets of silver, two sockets under the one board, and two sockets under another board.
22 And for the sides of the tabernacle westward, thou dost make six boards.
23 And two boards thou dost make for the corners of the tabernacle in the two sides.
24 And they are pairs beneath, and together they are pairs above its head unto the one ring; so is it for them both, they are for the two corners.
25 And they have been eight boards, and their sockets of silver [are] sixteen sockets, two sockets under the one board, and two sockets under another board.
26 `And thou hast made bars of shittim wood: five for the boards of the one side of the tabernacle,
27 and five bars for the boards of the second side of the tabernacle, and five bars for the boards of the side of the tabernacle at the two sides, westward;
28 and one hath caused the middle bar in the midst of the boards to reach from end unto end;
29 and the boards thou dost overlay [with] gold, and their rings thou dost make of gold places for bars, and hast overlaid their bars with gold;
30 and thou hast raised up the tabernacle according to its fashion which thou hast been shewn in the mount.
31 `And thou hast made a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and twined linen, work of a designer; he maketh it [with] cherubs;
32 and thou hast put it on four pillars of shittim wood, overlaid [with] gold, their pegs [are] of gold, on four sockets of silver.
33 `And thou hast put the vail under the hooks, and hast brought in thither within the vail the ark of the testimony; and the vail hath made a separation for you between the holy and the holy of holies.
34 `And thou hast put the mercy-seat on the ark of the testimony, in the holy of holies.
35 `And thou hast set the table at the outside of the vail, and the candlestick over-against the table on the side of the tabernacle southward, and the table thou dost put on the north side.
36 `And thou hast made a covering for the opening of the tent, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and twined linen, work of an embroiderer;
37 and thou hast made for the covering five pillars of shittim [wood], and hast overlaid them [with] gold, their pegs [are] of gold, and thou hast cast for them five sockets of brass.
The body is the physical/material part --- that which we see. The soul is our personality, likes/dislikes and life force. Our spirit is the god connection or what manipulates us as individuals. Are we God connected or demonically connected. The spirit is what died in Adam and Eve when they ate of the forbidden fruit. The connection was unplugged as it were. The spirit is our motivation and drive.
So plants have a Physical Body and a personality/Life force = soul? But no spirit?
What about mentally ill people?
Interesting... What religion are you? and what is your facsination with Mormons? PM me if you prefer.
PrickKicker: I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron. But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.
PrickKicker wrote:So plants have a Physical Body and a personality/Life force = soul? But no spirit?
What about mentally ill people?
Interesting... What religion are you? and what is your facsination with Mormons? PM me if you prefer.
Speaking of plants and animals, I really do not know what their status is. It does seem that God gave to man something entirely special that He didn't extend to them. I would say that plants likely have a spirit but no soul. The same might be true of animals; however, God does seem to care for the animals. This may be that God created plants for material needs, such as food, oxygen, beauty. And I do feel originally, animals & insects were designed to please man, tend to the environment and just be fun! All this changed, of course, when Adam sinned. I believe mentally ill people have a body, soul, and spirit. I feel all issues are the result of sin, but not necessarily that of their own or their parents. Sin is everywhere ---- in what we say, do, see, feel, how we act, the environment, nature, etc... So I do see that disease, mental illness, and the like are all related; however, I also see how such things seem to benefit those that love the Lord.They can bring the simple blessing of the realization as to how fortunate one is to not have such a problems. Such might also act to bring one, otherwise indifferent to God ---- closer. I am a Christian, but the clarification label would be Independant Fundamentalist, Bible Believing, Born-again, Christian. I attend a Bible Church, but have also attended Baptist, Breathern, Episcopalian, Community, Calvary Bible Protestant and Presbyterian Churches. The whole Mormon thing happen when I was a kid and a couple of Mormon "elders" showed up at our door and my dad had a talk wth them. I have a couple of distant relatives working a Mormon farm in Michigan, who are Mormon.
LittleNipper wrote:Speaking of plants and animals, I really do not know what their status is. It does seem that God gave to man something entirely special that He didn't extend to them. I would say that plants likely have a spirit but no soul. The same might be true of animals; however, God does seem to care for the animals. This may be that God created plants for material needs, such as food, oxygen, beauty. And I do feel originally, animals & insects were designed to please man, tend to the environment and just be fun! All this changed, of course, when Adam sinned. I believe mentally ill people have a body, soul, and spirit. I feel all issues are the result of sin, but not necessarily that of their own or their parents. Sin is everywhere ---- in what we say, do, see, feel, how we act, the environment, nature, etc... So I do see that disease, mental illness, and the like are all related; however, I also see how such things seem to benefit those that love the Lord.They can bring the simple blessing of the realization as to how fortunate one is to not have such a problems. Such might also act to bring one, otherwise indifferent to God ---- closer.
Ok, now I am confused...
First you said...
LittleNipper wrote:The body is the physical/material part --- that which we see. The soul is our personality, likes/dislikes and life force. A plant has a life force, and life force is part of the soul, unlike Animals that have personality and likes and dislikes, a plant has no personality or likes and dislikes? But according to you does not have soul and is more likely to have spirit? But the spirit is what connects us to God and Demons? Our spirit is the god connection or what manipulates us as individuals. Are we God connected or demonically connected. The spirit is what died in Adam and Eve when they ate of the forbidden fruit. The connection was unplugged as it were. The spirit is our motivation and drive.
And you are here posting because you have some Mormon relatives that work on a church owned farm?
Ok, Now I know why you just paste large chunks of Bible passages!
PrickKicker: I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron. But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.
LittleNipper wrote:Speaking of plants and animals, I really do not know what their status is. It does seem that God gave to man something entirely special that He didn't extend to them. I would say that plants likely have a spirit but no soul. The same might be true of animals; however, God does seem to care for the animals. This may be that God created plants for material needs, such as food, oxygen, beauty. And I do feel originally, animals & insects were designed to please man, tend to the environment and just be fun! All this changed, of course, when Adam sinned. I believe mentally ill people have a body, soul, and spirit. I feel all issues are the result of sin, but not necessarily that of their own or their parents. Sin is everywhere ---- in what we say, do, see, feel, how we act, the environment, nature, etc... So I do see that disease, mental illness, and the like are all related; however, I also see how such things seem to benefit those that love the Lord.They can bring the simple blessing of the realization as to how fortunate one is to not have such a problems. Such might also act to bring one, otherwise indifferent to God ---- closer.
Ok, now I am confused...
First you said...
LittleNipper wrote:The body is the physical/material part --- that which we see. The soul is our personality, likes/dislikes and life force. A plant has a life force, and life force is part of the soul, unlike Animals that have personality and likes and dislikes, a plant has no personality or likes and dislikes? But according to you does not have soul and is more likely to have spirit? But the spirit is what connects us to God and Demons? Our spirit is the god connection or what manipulates us as individuals. Are we God connected or demonically connected. The spirit is what died in Adam and Eve when they ate of the forbidden fruit. The connection was unplugged as it were. The spirit is our motivation and drive.
And you are here posting because you have some Mormon relatives that work on a church owned farm?
Ok, Now I know why you just paste large chunks of Bible passages!
I had a opportunity to witness to these (relatives) and some other Mormons and I felt comfortable with that. Perhaps it is a calling. Go unto all the world and preach the Gospel. One must first know what the gospel message is and what it is not. Mormons go door to door presenting their book.
As for a plant, perhaps it has spirit (the manipulative force) and body ---- but no soul... So we have man with body, soul and spirit; and animals with body and soul ---- then plants with body and spirit. This is pure conjecture with regards to plants and animals. We do know from the Bible that man has a body, soul and spirit. And these three work together as one. I do know that man is unique among the living created beings existing in a the material world. God wants us to be concerned with ourselves and others. The rest is just something we might consider and ponder. Don't let it confuse the issue as to where you are with regards to the Creator. That is the most important thing you will ever consider. This is why I paste huge chunks of Bible passages. For in them is found light, truth, and love.
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1 `And thou dost make the tabernacle: ten curtains of twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet; [with] cherubs, work of a designer, thou dost make them;
2 the length of the one curtain [is] eight and twenty by the cubit, and the breadth of the one curtain four by the cubit, one measure [is] to all the curtains;
3 five of the curtains are joining one unto another, and five curtains are joining one to another.
4 `And thou hast made loops of blue upon the edge of the one curtain, at the end in the joining; and so thou makest in the edge of the outermost curtain, in the joining of the second.
5 fifty loops thou dost make in the one curtain, and fifty loops thou dost make in the edge of the curtain which [is] in the joining of the second, causing the loops to take hold one unto another;
6 and thou hast made fifty hooks of gold, and hast joined the curtains one to another by the hooks, and the tabernacle hath been one.
7 `And thou hast made curtains of goats' [hair], for a tent over the tabernacle; thou dost make eleven curtains:
8 the length of the one curtain [is] thirty by the cubit, and the breadth of the one curtain four by the cubit; one measure [is] to the eleven curtains;
9 and thou hast joined the five curtains apart, and the six curtains apart, and hast doubled the six curtains over-against the front of the tent.
10 `And thou hast made fifty loops on the edge of the one curtain, the outermost in the joining, and fifty loops on the edge of the curtain which is joining the second;
11 and thou hast made fifty hooks of brass, and hast brought in the hooks into the loops, and hast joined the tent, and it hath been one.
12 `And the superfluity in the curtains of the tent -- the half of the curtain which is superfluous -- hath spread over the hinder part of the tabernacle;
13 and the cubit on this side, and the cubit on that, in the superfluity in the length of the curtains of the tent, is spread out over the sides of the tabernacle, on this and on that, to cover it;
14 and thou hast made a covering for the tent, of rams' skins made red, and a covering of badgers' skins above.
15 `And thou hast made the boards for the tabernacle, of shittim wood, standing up;
16 ten cubits [is] the length of the board, and a cubit and a half the breadth of the one board;
17 two handles [are] to the one board, joined one unto another; so thou dost make for all the boards of the tabernacle;
18 and thou hast made the boards of the tabernacle: twenty boards for the south side southward;
19 and forty sockets of silver thou dost make under the twenty boards, two sockets under the one board for its two handles, and two sockets under the other board for its two handles.
20 `And for the second side of the tabernacle, for the north side, [are] twenty boards,
21 and their forty sockets of silver, two sockets under the one board, and two sockets under another board.
22 And for the sides of the tabernacle westward, thou dost make six boards.
23 And two boards thou dost make for the corners of the tabernacle in the two sides.
24 And they are pairs beneath, and together they are pairs above its head unto the one ring; so is it for them both, they are for the two corners.
25 And they have been eight boards, and their sockets of silver [are] sixteen sockets, two sockets under the one board, and two sockets under another board.
26 `And thou hast made bars of shittim wood: five for the boards of the one side of the tabernacle,
27 and five bars for the boards of the second side of the tabernacle, and five bars for the boards of the side of the tabernacle at the two sides, westward;
28 and one hath caused the middle bar in the midst of the boards to reach from end unto end;
29 and the boards thou dost overlay [with] gold, and their rings thou dost make of gold places for bars, and hast overlaid their bars with gold;
30 and thou hast raised up the tabernacle according to its fashion which thou hast been shewn in the mount.
31 `And thou hast made a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and twined linen, work of a designer; he maketh it [with] cherubs;
32 and thou hast put it on four pillars of shittim wood, overlaid [with] gold, their pegs [are] of gold, on four sockets of silver.
33 `And thou hast put the vail under the hooks, and hast brought in thither within the vail the ark of the testimony; and the vail hath made a separation for you between the holy and the holy of holies.
34 `And thou hast put the mercy-seat on the ark of the testimony, in the holy of holies.
35 `And thou hast set the table at the outside of the vail, and the candlestick over-against the table on the side of the tabernacle southward, and the table thou dost put on the north side.
36 `And thou hast made a covering for the opening of the tent, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and twined linen, work of an embroiderer;
37 and thou hast made for the covering five pillars of shittim [wood], and hast overlaid them [with] gold, their pegs [are] of gold, and thou hast cast for them five sockets of brass.
Good point. I don't recall ever seeing any "blue, purple or scarlet" in the temple. Maybe I missed something. And not in the Tabernacle either.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love...you make. PMcC
