Adam had a belly button? yes or no?

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Did father Adam have a belly button?

 
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Adam had a belly button? yes or no?

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To compliment our Jesus had a wife thread, I am introducing the ultimate exercise in navel gazing. Namely gazing at Adam's. Did he as a man created in the express imgage of god, but formed from clay have a belly button?

Secondly, as a belly button is a scar, do resurrected beings have navels?
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I voted 'no' because, as the first mortal he cannot have a mortal mother, therefore no belly button.
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The voting option is not working for me. Tells me the form could not be submitted..... And on my own poll.


If I could get the voting to work, I would vote undecided. As BY taught that Adam was brought here with one of his many wives from a celestial sphere. For me the implication is that he was born of a woman at some point, but now a celestial being. Which returns me to the question of resurrected beings having navels. As it is a scar and not part of a "perfect" form.
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SteelHead wrote:The voting option is not working for me. Tells me the form could not be submitted..... And on my own poll.


If I could get the voting to work I would vote undecided. As BY taught that Adam was brought here with one of his many wives from a celestial sphere. For me the implication is that he was born of a woman at some point, but now a celestial being. Which returns me to the question of resurrected beings having navels. As it is a scar and not part of a "perfect" form.


If Adam was born of a mortal woman then Eve cannot be the first woman...
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I am going to sound like Zeez here. The belly-button is a birthday present from one's mother. It honors the feminine. Since God orchestrated evolution until the process reached Adam and Eve, and He then infused a soul, and therefore free will into both of them, Adam and Eve indeed had belly-buttons, given to them by their biological mothers. Since resurrected beings no longer need to have a reminder to honor the feminine, God being genderless, there will no longer be a need for a belly-button.

Since human beings are made up of intellect/emotion, body, and spirit they are in the image of the Trinity. Therefore the creation story is largely metaphorical.

That is my perspective--minus the dissonances of Mormonism. :razz:

That is what I have gotten from gazing into my belly-button. And my frequent reminders to my children on their birthdays, and the recent death of my mother, and the possibility that I might become a grandmother in eight months.
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though an odd question i think the answer is not so simple.
On the one hand the argument can be made that since there could be no obvious need for a belly-button why have it present?
I suppose the same could be true for any of the trees in Eden having rings? (Are we to suppose that the trees have no rings?, i think not)

Surely, anyone (great grandchildren etc..) who encountered Adam would notice his peculiar feature (or lack of) and thus would have been educated on the reasons why.

Now, granted, i assume that Adam was created as an adult...that he did not grow from an infant in the garden...at which case it would not be unreasonable for God to make Adam in the appearance of mankind that would follow, and thus be a complete "image" of God.
So, one could easily argue that Adam did have a belly button though he had physical reason for it, there could easily be a spiritual reason.
Perhaps the better question is "does God have a belly button"?
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yes, of course he did .... as Man is, God once was, as God is man may become.

Note the temple endowment is not a historical review, its a future promise for (consider yourselfs as) Adam and Eve.
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RockSlider wrote:yes, of course he did .... as Man is, God once was, as God is man may become.

Note the temple endowment is not a historical review, its a future promise for (consider yourselfs as) Adam and Eve.

GOD is the great "I AM." GOD became man through the Lord Jesus Christ. HE never started out as one in another god's playground --- no matter what Joseph Smith had to say.
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Stay on target.
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Re: Adam had a belly button? yes or no?

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I really have no idea if they did or not. Since humans evolved on this planet and Adam and Eve were introduced into this biosphere by God, I really have no idea if their bodies were formed in something akin to a test tube based on that evolutionary material or how it was accomplished. So the answer could be they did or they did not have one depending on the process involved.
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