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GC Repetition...

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Following is the text of President Thomas S. Monson's remarks as he brought to a close the 182nd Semiannual General Conference on Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012.

My dear brothers and sisters, we have come to the close of another inspiring general conference. I personally have been spiritually fed and uplifted and know that you, too, have felt the special spirit of this conference.

We offer our heartfelt gratitude to all who have participated in any way. The truths of the Gospel have been beautifully taught and reemphasized. As we take the messages of the past two days into our hearts and into our lives, we will be blessed.

As always, the proceedings of this conference will be available in the coming issues of the Ensign and Liahona magazines. I encourage you to read the talks once again and to ponder the messages contained therein. I have found in my own life that I gain even more from these inspired sermons when I study them in greater depth.

We have had unprecedented coverage of the conference, reaching across the continents and the oceans to people everywhere. Though we are far removed from many of you, we feel of your spirit and send our love and appreciation to you.

To our Brethren who have been released at this conference, may I express the heartfelt gratitude of all of us for your many years of devoted service. Countless are those who have been blessed by your contributions to the work of the Lord.

Brothers and sisters, I have just celebrated my 85th birthday, and I am grateful for each year the Lord has granted me. As I reflect on my life's experiences, I thank Him for His many blessings to me. As I mentioned in my message this morning, I have felt His hand directing my efforts as I have tired earnestly to serve Him and to serve all of you.

The office of the President of the Church is a demanding one. How grateful I am for my two faithful counselors who serve by my side and who are always willing and exceptionally able to assist in the work which comes to the First Presidency. I express my gratitude as well for the noble men who comprise the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. They work tirelessly in the cause of the Master, with the members of the Quorums of the Seventy providing inspired assistance to them.


I wish also to commend you, my brothers and sisters, wherever you are throughout the world, for all that you do in your wards and branches, your stakes and districts. As you willingly fulfill callings when you are asked, you are helping to build the Kingdom of God on earth.

May we ever watch over one another, assisting in times of need. Let us not be critical and judgmental, but let us be tolerant, ever emulating the Savior's example of loving kindness. In that vein, may we willingly serve one another. May we pray for the inspiration to know of the needs of those around us, and then may we go forward and provide assistance.

Let us be of good cheer as we go about our lives. Although we live in increasingly perilous times, the lord loves us and is mindful of us. He is always on our side as we do what is right. He will help us in times of need. Difficulties come into our lives, problems we do not anticipate and which we would never choose. None of us is immune. The purpose of mortality is to learn and to grow to be more like our Father, and it is often during the difficult times that we learn the most, as painful as the lessons may be. Our lives can also be filled with joy as we follow the teachings of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Lord admonished, "Be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.' What great happiness this knowledge should bring to us. He lived for us and He died for us. He paid the price for our sins. May we emulate His example. May we show our great gratitude to Him by accepting His sacrifice and living lives that will qualify us to return and one day live with Him.

As I have mentioned at previous conferences, I thank you for your prayers in my behalf. I need them; I feel them. We as General Authorities also remember all of you and pray for our Heavenly Father's choicest blessings to be with you.

Now, my beloved brothers and sisters, we adjourn for six months. May God be with you until we meet again at that time. In the name of our Savior and Redeemer, even Jesus Christ the Lord, Amen.


Following is the text of President Thomas S. Monson's remarks as he brought to a close the 181st Semiannual General Conference on Sunday, April, 2012.

My heart is full as we come to the close of this glorious conference. We have been so richly blessed as we have listened to the counsel and testimonies of those who have spoken to us. I think you will agree with me that we have felt the Spirit of the Lord as our hearts have been touched and our testimonies strengthened.

Once again we have enjoyed beautiful music, which has enhanced and enriched each session of conference. I express my gratitude to all who have shared with us their talents in this regard.

My heartfelt thanks go to each who has spoken to us as well as to those who have offered prayers at each of the sessions.

There are countless individuals who work either behind the scenes or in less visible positions each conference. It would not be possible for us to hold these sessions without their assistance. My thanks go to all of them as well.

I know you join with me in expressing profound gratitude to those brethren and sisters who have been released during this conference. We will miss them. Their contributions to the work of the Lord have been enormous and will be felt throughout generations to come.

We have also sustained, through uplifted hands, brethren and sisters who have been called to new positions during this conference. We welcome them and want them to know that we look forward to serving with them in the cause of the Master. They have been called by inspiration from on high.

We have had unprecedented coverage of this conference, reaching across the continents and oceans to people everywhere. Though we are far removed from many of you, we feel of your spirit and your dedication, and we send our love and appreciation to you wherever you are.

How blessed we are, my brothers and sisters, to have the restored gospel of Jesus Christ in our lives and in our hearts. It provides answers to life’s greatest questions. It provides meaning and purpose and hope to our lives.

We live in troubled times. I assure you that our Heavenly Father is mindful of the challenges we face. He loves each of us and desires to bless us and to help us. May we call upon Him in prayer, as He admonished when He said, “Pray always, and I will pour out my Spirit upon you, and great shall be your blessing—yea, even more than if you should obtain treasures of earth.”1

My dear brothers and sisters, may your homes be filled with love and courtesy and with the Spirit of the Lord. Love your families. If there are disagreements or contentions among you, I urge you to settle them now. Said the Savior:

“There shall be no disputations among you. …

“For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.

“[But] behold, this is not my doctrine … ; but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away.”2

As your humble servant, I echo the words of King Benjamin in his address to his people when he said:

“I have not commanded you to … think that I of myself am more than a mortal man.

“But I am like as yourselves, subject to all manner of infirmities in body and mind; yet I have been chosen … by the hand of the Lord … and have been kept and preserved by his matchless power, to serve you with all the might, mind and strength which the Lord hath granted unto me.”3

My beloved brothers and sisters, I desire with all my heart to do God’s will and to serve Him and to serve you.

Now as we leave this conference, I invoke the blessings of heaven upon each of you. May you who are away from your homes return to them safely. May you ponder the truths you have heard, and may they help you to become even better than you were when conference began two days ago.

Until we meet again in six months’ time, I ask the Lord’s blessings to be upon you and, indeed, upon all of us, and I do so in His holy name—even Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior—amen.


It's pretty clear that the two sets of closing remarks are the same.
I wonder what proportion of the other talks will be rehash's of other Conferences...
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Why do men claiming the title and spiritual gifts as Prophets, seers, and revelators, that sell the idea of a Holy Ghost that provides inspiration from God,
need to have prewritten rehashed talks and use tele-prompts/auto-queues???

Don't they trust the Holy Ghost???
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PrickKicker wrote:Why do men claiming the title and spiritual gifts as Prophets, seers, and revelators, that sell the idea of a Holy Ghost that provides inspiration from God,
need to have prewritten rehashed talks and use tele-prompts/auto-queues???

Don't they trust the Holy Ghost???

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Drifting wrote:It's pretty clear that the two sets of closing remarks are the same.
I wonder what proportion of the other talks will be rehash's of other Conferences...

you too seem mighty repetitious...but it seems clear that the Lord reveals on His timeline and not ours.
That being said, i think we see many themes being "repated" because many of us have not quite gotten the message yet...for example, i have considered it good practice to make sure my toddler has been toilet-trained before i start car driving lessons....and remarkably, with either endeavor the toddler never "learned" on the first time.
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subgenius wrote:
PrickKicker wrote:Why do men claiming the title and spiritual gifts as Prophets, seers, and revelators, that sell the idea of a Holy Ghost that provides inspiration from God,
need to have prewritten rehashed talks and use tele-prompts/auto-queues???

Don't they trust the Holy Ghost???

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What's the problem? He thinks there should be magic involved? Heh.
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Says the straw man...

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subgenius wrote:That being said, i think we see many themes being "repated" because many of us have not quite gotten the message yet...for example, i have considered it good practice to make sure my toddler has been toilet-trained before i start car driving lessons....and remarkably, with either endeavor the toddler never "learned" on the first time.


The classic response.

It is always the members' fault.

At some point, don't you think potty training lessons should cease?

And rest assured, we will never get the car keys.

This is mainly because those who say they have them lost them a long time ago and are just trying to give the illusion they still have them.

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Alfredo wrote:What's the problem? He thinks there should be magic involved? Heh.

no problem at all - except for the obvious myopia by prickkicker.
Who says the HG was not involved in the preparation for the talks and for the prayers offered?
The idea that each talk is to be inspired in the moment is rather out of step with church practices. Sacrament talks are quite often prepared, accompanied by notes, etc...

So, whatever prickkicker is trying to insinuate is way off the mark, because he conveys inadequate understanding of the principle involved.

It is as if he expects there to be a hat full of topics and only after an inspired seat number is called out and that person approaches the podium are they allowed to retrieve their topic...sure that would be entertaining, but if its a light show and spirit band you are after then go to a baptist church.

as for magic, that wholly depends on him and quite obviously that "magic" has long since withdrawn.
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consiglieri wrote:The classic response.

It is always the members' fault.

At some point, don't you think potty training lessons should cease?

yes, when the skill has been acquired...and by reading posts like Drifting's quite a bit is still ending up on the floor and in his pants.

consiglieri wrote:And rest assured, we will never get the car keys.

not while you are still in diaper, and especially not with that attitude.

consiglieri wrote:This is mainly because those who say they have them lost them a long time ago and are just trying to give the illusion they still have them.

All the Best!

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classic response - always the leadership's fault because they are simply "hiding", "conspiring", "scheming", "deceiving", etc..
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Consig, you are welcome to move on and learn more any time you'd like. Mormonism is simply designed to get you to actually speak with God and learn directly from him. Unless and until you are willing to make that step and truly do as the Lord commands in all things and follow the gospel - you will stay in diapers so to speak.
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