While anything that lessens commitment is of consequence, two relevant challenges are both prevalent and significant. The first is unkindness, violence, and domestic abuse. The second is sexual immorality and impure thoughts. These often precede and are at the root of the choice to be less committed.
This seems to be implanting in the members that if they see a less committed member then, chances are, it's because of sexual immorality or that they are unkind, violent or abusive.
What?
This seems to be a disgraceful generalisation. I am a less committed member. I am not unkind (I am in fact very generous). I am not violent. I am not abusive (abusing you, subgenius, doesn't count). I am not sexually immoral nor impure in thought or deed.
Now if members of my ward read Elder Cook's words they may now be inclined to think that I am all/some of those things and that explains my current lack of commitment. He is inaccurately tainting some very good peoples reputation.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote:I am a less committed member. I am not unkind (I am in fact very generous). I am not violent. I am not abusive (abusing you, subgenius, doesn't count). I am not sexually immoral nor impure in thought or deed.
without the tedious task of weeding through all your posts on this board, i find this statement, based on experience, to be likely an exaggeration. Your posts seemingly contradict your assertion to an extent....at least to the extent of your commitment.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Drifting wrote:I am a less committed member. I am not unkind (I am in fact very generous). I am not violent. I am not abusive (abusing you, subgenius, doesn't count). I am not sexually immoral nor impure in thought or deed.
without the tedious task of weeding through all your posts on this board, i find this statement, based on experience, to be likely an exaggeration. Your posts seemingly contradict your assertion to an extent....at least to the extent of your commitment.
I think you need the tedium in your life...CFR!
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote: This seems to be a disgraceful generalisation.
True, and one that is not correct generally. While some may become less committed to their religious group, others will become more committed due to guilt. It also doesn't bring up other more dominate reason's why people become less committed to a religious group, but then that would lessen what he wants to communicate. I don't condemn him to much since this is something he was probably taught as a youth and has unfortunately carried with him into adulthood.
So, once 'the man who communed with jehovah,' started thinking and therefore becoming immoral, his focus was not on building up the kingdom as in missionary work and gathering tithes and offerings, but building up the kingdom by sowing the seeds of love. His commitment to the organisation waned, while his commitment to the ladies increased, he was therefore less committed.
PrickKicker: I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron. But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.
Quentin L. Cook wrote:While anything that lessens commitment is of consequence, two relevant challenges are both prevalent and significant. The first is unkindness, violence, and domestic abuse. The second is sexual immorality and impure thoughts. These often precede and are at the root of the choice to be less committed.
It looks like Elder Cook needs a refresher course on basic arithmetic. He listed five challenges, not two.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Dr. Shades wrote:It looks like Elder Cook needs a refresher course on basic arithmetic. He listed five challenges, not two.
No he just lumped the first 3 into 1 and then the second 2 into 1
It doesn't matter. He listed five, not two. He needs a refresher course on basic arithmetic.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
