Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

[_Harold Lee]

That website on "Flood archaeology" arguing with while taking scattered references from modern science looks legit.

Noah's Flood-1
Science-0

Forget that technology, engineering, medicine is the result of how well we know science. All the inventions we've made since the bronze age were lucky. Everyone knows the Bible is the only real science and it's all just a big network of lies and conspiracies.

[Guest]

Please see : http://www.creationtips.com/flooddate.html
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung ... _flood.htm

I suggest, after you have referenced the earthage.org site, that you take a little trip using your Google Earth. Key in "Mt. St. Helens" and zoom in to ground level. Note the landscape pictures there that display the river valleys cut through the volcanic ash from 1980, by water runoff. Note the LACK of striation on the sides of the water channels. Note how all the water channels seem to be lined with collapsed, powdery, almost sand like, siding.

Now key in "Grand Canyon". Go down to ground level in any of the many areas outlined as the Grand Canyon. Take a look at the layers displayed down the sides of the valleys. Note the colour variations. Note that the layers in some cases are vast and many, many meters thick. If you need a more detailed view go into any of the many Grand Canyon sites and get a better overview of the layering in the Grand Canyon. Note how some layers are massively thick. Note also that nowhere, that is no where, do you find that the layers are covered by sand that obliterates the distinct layers.

The conclusion you will come to, if you open your mind to the possibility, is that the Grand Canyon and Mt. St. Helens, as geographic features, have nothing to do with each other. They are events with no commonality.

There are some astounding similarities between the two, as well as, differences. The Flood was WORLD WIDE, lasted one year, involved lots of water, many different areas of earth's crust from around around the world, various types of destruction, and likely various objects from outer space. This likely happened in stages as things progressed causing layering. I believe the similarities are how total and fast destruction came, and also how fast it tended to heal.

[_PrickKicker]

That website on "Flood archaeology" arguing with while taking scattered references from modern science looks legit.

Noah's Flood-1
Science-0

Forget that technology, engineering, medicine is the result of how well we know science. All the inventions we've made since the bronze age were lucky. Everyone knows the Bible is the only real science and it's all just a big network of lies and conspiracies.

[Guest]

That website on "Flood archaeology" arguing with while taking scattered references from modern science looks legit.

Noah's Flood-1
Science-0

Forget that technology, engineering, medicine is the result of how well we know science. All the inventions we've made since the bronze age were lucky. Everyone knows the Bible is the only real science and it's all just a big network of lies and conspiracies.

I feel what is mentioned above is known as scarcasm.
One must understand that the Bible is not a science book. It is a spiritual book. However where the Bible speaks of an event from the past, it is historically factual. Where the Bible presents what best could be described as scientific data, that data is presented factually. What we know with regards to medicine has to do with hybridization within species and has nothing to do with one species changing into another. And it is a known fact that while specialization does assist a particular organism to survive under specific environmental conditions, it is also well known that the parent ancestor is healthier. A prime example is the dog --- where various breeds tend to exhibit specific medical issues peculiar to the breed in question. The same is true of humans, where various races are more likely to have specific genetic medical issues.

[_Harold Lee]

What we know with regards to medicine has to do with hybridization within species and has nothing to do with one species changing into another.

word.

[_Harold Lee]

You're right man, I see the error of my ways. Take care now.

[_Drifting]

The Flood was WORLD WIDE, lasted one year, involved lots of water, many different areas of earth's crust from around around the world, various types of distruction, and likely various objects from outer space. This likely happened in stages as things progressed causing layering. I believe the similarities are how total and fast destruction came, and also how fast it tended to heal.

'many different areas of the earth's crust from around the world' - Dude, it was a WORLDWIDE flood and so would involved ALL areas of the earths crust...

'likely various objects from outer space' -

[_Themis]

The Flood was WORLD WIDE, lasted one year, involved lots of water, many different areas of earth's crust from around around the world, various types of distruction, and likely various objects from outer space. This likely happened in stages as things progressed causing layering. I believe the similarities are how total and fast destruction came, and also how fast it tended to heal.

'many different areas of the earth's crust from around the world' - Dude, it was a WORLDWIDE flood and so would involved ALL areas of the earths crust...

'likely various objects from outer space' -

This is all we get from nipper. A whole slew of assertions he has read on his favorite sites, but nothing on any processes or evidence that explain how it is supposed to work, and why all the evidence and processes that have really good explanatory power from many scientific disciplines that are not even trying to answer any questions about the Bible should be rejected(other then literal believers in the Bible say so).

[_just me]

I feel what is mentioned above is known as scarcasm.
One must understand that the Bible is not a science book. It is a spiritual book. However where the Bible speaks of an event from the past, it is historically factual. Where the Bible presents what best could be described as scientific data, that data is presented factually. What we know with regards to medicine has to do with hybridization within species and has nothing to do with one species changing into another. And it is a known fact that while specialization does assist a particular organism to survive under specific environmental conditions, it is also well known that the parent ancestor is healthier. A prime example is the dog --- where various breeds tend to exhibit specific medical issues peculiar to the breed in question. The same is true of humans, where various races are more likely to have specific genetic medical issues.

Lil Nipper, which version of the Flood narrative located in Genesis is historically factual?

The one where only two of each animal was involved or the one where there were 7 pairs of all clean animals and 2 of all the unclean animals?


ETA: I can't believe this thread has stayed alive so long!

[_bcuzbcuz]

The one where only two of each animal was involved or the one where there were 7 pairs of all clean animals and 2 of all the unclean animals?


ETA: I can't believe this thread has stayed alive so long!

I believe in the song!!! two by two, hurrah, hurrah, the elephant and the kangaroo, hurrah, hurrah. Ten by ten, the last one was the little red hen, hurrah, hurrah. that's how it was!!!