bcuzbcuz wrote:I believe in the song!!! two by two, hurrah, hurrah, the elephant and the kangaroo, hurrah, hurrah. Ten by ten, the last one was the little red hen, hurrah, hurrah. that's how it was!!!
just me wrote:ETA: I can't believe this thread has stayed alive so long!
It has lasted three months (and a bit), which is longer than it took for God to flood the whole earth drowning (murdering) every man, woman, child, baby, unborn baby, animal, plant, tree etc except for the eight people and selection of zoology that has repopulated the earth entirely over the last four thousand years.
Three months and Little Nipper still hasn't provided a credible answer!
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
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LittleNipper wrote:I feel what is mentioned above is known as scarcasm. One must understand that the Bible is not a science book. It is a spiritual book. However where the Bible speaks of an event from the past, it is historically factual. Where the Bible presents what best could be described as scientific data, that data is presented factually. What we know with regards to medicine has to do with hybridization within species and has nothing to do with one species changing into another. And it is a known fact that while specialization does assist a particular organism to survive under specific environmental conditions, it is also well known that the parent ancestor is healthier. A prime example is the dog --- where various breeds tend to exhibit specific medical issues peculiar to the breed in question. The same is true of humans, where various races are more likely to have specific genetic medical issues.
Lil Nipper, which version of the Flood narrative located in Genesis is historically factual?
The one where only two of each animal was involved or the one where there were 7 pairs of all clean animals and 2 of all the unclean animals?
Both compliment each other. The reality is that what is being said is --- that for every male there was a female. And among the clean animals there were 7 pairs (male/female) of each. The one is a generality while the other is more specific. Just like in the creation story. At first the entire creation is spoken of and then the focus shifts in the second chapter to the specifics surrounding the creation of both Adam & Eve.
ETA: I can't believe this thread has stayed alive so long!
LittleNipper wrote:The Flood was WORLD WIDE, lasted one year, involved lots of water, many different areas of earth's crust from around around the world, various types of distruction, and likely various objects from outer space. This likely happened in stages as things progressed causing layering. I believe the similarities are how total and fast destruction came, and also how fast it tended to heal.
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Drifting wrote:'many different areas of the earth's crust from around the world' - Dude, it was a WORLDWIDE flood and so would involved ALL areas of the earths crust... 'likely various objects from outer space' -
Themis] This is all we get from nipper. A whole slew of assertions he has read on his favorite sites, but nothing on any processes or evidence that explain how it is supposed to work, and why all the evidence and processes that have really good explanatory power from many scientific disciplines that are not even trying to answer any questions about the Bible should be rejected(other then literal believers in the Bible say so).[/quote]
[quote="LittleNipper wrote: Is the opposite not true? Evolutionists, etc., are not even trying to answer any questions about why the Bible should be accepted or not, except to say that the entire process was/is somehow "natural," and the divine does not exist?
just me wrote:ETA: I can't believe this thread has stayed alive so long!
It has lasted three months (and a bit), which is longer than it took for God to flood the whole earth drowning (murdering) every man, woman, child, baby, unborn baby, animal, plant, tree etc except for the eight people and selection of zoology that has repopulated the earth entirely over the last four thousand years.
Three months and Little Nipper still hasn't provided a credible answer!
I can say that murder was not the cause for the drownings. God simply allowed human nature to reach it's ultimate conclusion. For the wages of sin is death but the GIFT of God is eternal life therough Jesus Christ the LORD. God told Noah what to do to protect himself and his family and he listened. Do you really think that anyone else was listening? Are you listening, now?
LittleNipper wrote:I can say that murder was not the cause for the drownings. God simply allowed human nature to reach it's ultimate conclusion.
God, premeditated the flood knowing it would cause the death of those people. That's murder. Or are you now saying God didn't cause the flood?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote: God, premeditated the flood knowing it would cause the death of those people. That's murder. Or are you now saying God didn't cause the flood?
Oooo, Oooo, you post was number 666!! I wanted to be 666.
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Both compliment each other. The reality is that what is being said is --- that for every male there was a female. And among the clean animals there were 7 pairs (male/female) of each. The one is a generality while the other is more specific. Just like in the creation story. At first the entire creation is spoken of and then the focus shifts in the second chapter to the specifics surrounding the creation of both Adam & Eve.
They do not compliment each other and neither do the two creations stories. There are conflicting "facts" in each. The creation stories differ in the order that things were created. They can't both be factually correct.
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LittleNipper wrote:I can say that murder was not the cause for the drownings. God simply allowed human nature to reach it's ultimate conclusion.
God, premeditated the flood knowing it would cause the death of those people. That's murder. Or are you now saying God didn't cause the flood?
Well, God allowed you to be born only so that you might die by some accident or of some dreaded disease likely sometime before the age of 90 --- get over it. God already knows when you and I will die and how. That is premeditated. But God is God. And He is the Creator ---- and not either you or I. He has every right to destroy what He Himself created. Murder is when a person plays God and not the other way around ---------------------- but I forget, some people today imagine the universe revolves around them for their pleasure.
LittleNipper wrote:Well, God allowed you to be born only so that you might die by some accident or of some dreaded disease likely sometime before the age of 90 --- get over it. God already knows when you and I will die and how. That is premeditated. But God is God. And He is the Creator ---- and not either you or I. He has every right to destroy what He Himself created. Murder is when a person plays God and not the other way around ---------------------- but I forget, some people today imagine the universe revolves around them for their pleasure.
So according to nipper, As the supreme creator, God is unaccountable, or in other words, he can do what he likes and get away with it. Because He created everything and everyone including the devil and sin.
So what is the need for a devil? Because God is God, he can do what he likes good or bad and get away with it.
Unless the devil is just another name and way of admonishing God's actions with an alter ego?
There is simply no reasoning with mentally ill people.
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