The Dutch bureau for genealogy has handed personal and privacy-sensitive information relating to millions of Dutch citizens to the Mormon church in Salt Lake City, Trouw reports on Wednesday.
The bureau has admitted handing over copies of the death registrations of everyone who died in the Netherlands between 1939 and 1970, the paper says. The card system was used before the introduction of the centralised births, marriages and deaths registry. The cards include details of whether or not someone had been in prison, had had psychiatric help or lived off social security benefits as well as the names of partners and children. The archivist responsible for the decision to hand over the information to the Mormons has since retired. The director of the bureau told Trouw the organisation considers the Salt Lake City archive as a reserve. 'Imagine in our own collection was damaged by fire or water,' Leo Voogt is quoted as saying. 'Then those copies will be useful'. Nevertheless, such an agreement would never be made now, given the different attitude to privacy these days, Voogt told the paper.
Baptism
In May, Trouw reported several members of the Dutch royal family have been posthumously ‘baptised’ into the Mormon church. Church documents show prince Claus, prince Bernhard and princess Juliana were all ‘baptised’ as Mormons after their deaths. Mormons believe the proxy baptism ritual allows deceased people from other religions to enter the afterlife. In addition, the paper reported the Mormon church had offered the 12 Dutch provinces to digitally scan all their births, marriages and deaths records for use on computers, free of charge. However, the aim of this is to collect more names to baptise by proxy, the paper said at the time.
So, the Church get the names for free and then get members to pay 10% of their income to gain access to those same names...hmmm...nice work if you can get it...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
No. It does not take tithing to gain access to these records.
Anyone can order them from the FHL to be read at a local FHC for a fee. It is currently about $7.50 for a short term rental.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:No. It does not take tithing to gain access to these records.
Anyone can order them from the FHL to be read at a local FHC for a fee. It is currently about $7.50 for a short term rental.
Yep, but Mormons like to do stuff with the dead beyond just family tree production. That 'stuff' costs 10%...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
just me wrote:No. It does not take tithing to gain access to these records.
Anyone can order them from the FHL to be read at a local FHC for a fee. It is currently about $7.50 for a short term rental.
Yep, but Mormons like to do stuff with the dead beyond just family tree production. That 'stuff' costs 10%...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
just me wrote:No. It does not take tithing to gain access to these records.
Anyone can order them from the FHL to be read at a local FHC for a fee. It is currently about $7.50 for a short term rental.
Yep, but Mormons like to do stuff with the dead beyond just family tree production. That 'stuff' costs 10%...
Only if you want to do the ordinances yourself (which you can only do for your same sex ancestors, anyway). If you have them done by the temple or others you don't have to pay tithing. :)
I win! Woot!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:Only if you want to do the ordinances yourself (which you can only do for your same sex ancestors, anyway). If you have them done by the temple or others you don't have to pay tithing. :)
I win! Woot!
yeah but... ....but..... ....and..... : damn .
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
just me wrote:Only if you want to do the ordinances yourself (which you can only do for your same sex ancestors, anyway). If you have them done by the temple or others you don't have to pay tithing. :)
I win! Woot!
yeah but... ....but..... ....and..... : damn .
Hehe! I still love you!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~