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LittleNipper wrote:Leviticus 1:1-17
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a fire-offering of sweet fragrance to Jehovah.

It stinks.
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(dʒɨˈhoʊvə is the latinization of the Hebrew יְהֹוָה, a vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the proper name of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible, which has also been transcribed as "Yehowah" or "Yahweh".)

In Hebrew, there is no character (or sound) for "dʒ".
The first letter of the NAME is yod.
The voiced palatal approximant is a type of consonantal sound used in many spoken languages. The symbol in the International Phonetic Alphabet that represents this sound is ⟨j⟩. The equivalent X-SAMPA symbol is j, or equivalently, i_^, and in the Americanist phonetic notation it is ⟨y⟩. Because the name of the letter jay may be confusing when used to refer to this sound, the palatal approximant is sometimes called yod instead.

Stooooopid English pronounciation and/or spelling ... even in YLT!
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LittleNipper wrote:Exodus 9

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

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3 lo, the hand of Jehovah is on thy cattle which [are] in the field, on horses, on asses, on camels, on herd, and on flock -- a pestilence very grievous.

4 `And Jehovah hath separated between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there doth not die a thing of all the sons of Israel's;

5

6 And Jehovah doth this thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt die, and of the cattle of the sons of Israel not one hath died;

7

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9 and it hath become small dust over all the land of Egypt, and it hath become on man and on cattle a boil breaking forth [with] blains, in all the land of Egypt.'

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16 `
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18 lo, I am raining about [this] time to-morrow hail very grievous, such as hath not been in Egypt, even from the day of its being founded, even until now.

19 `And, now, send, strengthen thy cattle and all that thou hast in the field; every man and beast which is found in the field, and is not gathered into the house -- come down on them hath the hail, and they have died.'

20 He who is fearing the word of Jehovah among the servants of Pharaoh hath caused his servants and his cattle to flee unto the houses;

21 and he who hath not set his heart unto the word of Jehovah leaveth his servants and his cattle in the field.






I must have fallen asleep in class and missed this section.

In Exodus 9 verses 3-6 it says all the cattle of pharoah died.

Then verse 9 all these dead cattle get boils.

Then in verse 18 all the cattle die, again!!!!

I don't get it. If all the cattle died, how come God kills them all over again with hail a few verses later.
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bcuzbcuz wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Exodus 9

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1
2
3 lo, the hand of Jehovah is on thy cattle which [are] in the field, on horses, on asses, on camels, on herd, and on flock -- a pestilence very grievous.

4 `And Jehovah hath separated between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there doth not die a thing of all the sons of Israel's;

5

6 And Jehovah doth this thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt die, and of the cattle of the sons of Israel not one hath died;

7

8

9 and it hath become small dust over all the land of Egypt, and it hath become on man and on cattle a boil breaking forth [with] blains, in all the land of Egypt.'

10

11

12
13

14

15

16 `
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18 lo, I am raining about [this] time to-morrow hail very grievous, such as hath not been in Egypt, even from the day of its being founded, even until now.

19 `And, now, send, strengthen thy cattle and all that thou hast in the field; every man and beast which is found in the field, and is not gathered into the house -- come down on them hath the hail, and they have died.'

20 He who is fearing the word of Jehovah among the servants of Pharaoh hath caused his servants and his cattle to flee unto the houses;

21 and he who hath not set his heart unto the word of Jehovah leaveth his servants and his cattle in the field.






I must have fallen asleep in class and missed this section.

In Exodus 9 verses 3-6 it says all the cattle of pharoah died.

Then verse 9 all these dead cattle get boils.

Then in verse 18 all the cattle die, again!!!!

I don't get it. If all the cattle died, how come God kills them all over again with hail a few verses later.

The distinction is "in the field." The cattle in the barns were protected. Those out in the field at those various times were the ones smitten. See how useful the Bible is to an eduction? It gets one to read and think things through. Many answers are there, but one needs to process the story unfolding...
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LittleNipper wrote:The distinction is "in the field." The cattle in the barns were protected. Those out in the field at those various times were the ones smitten. See how useful the Bible is to an eduction? It gets one to read and think things through. Many answers are there, but one needs to process the story unfolding...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hmm, that's right... And the flood?

Was this isolated to a certain field too? That would explain the size of the boat and all the animals... "From his field."
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PrickKicker wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:The distinction is "in the field." The cattle in the barns were protected. Those out in the field at those various times were the ones smitten. See how useful the Bible is to an eduction? It gets one to read and think things through. Many answers are there, but one needs to process the story unfolding...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hmm, that's right... And the flood?

Was this isolated to a certain field too? That would explain the size of the boat and all the animals... "From his field."

The ark was the only shelter for the land animals and man.
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LittleNipper wrote:Exodus 9

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1
2
3 lo, the hand of Jehovah is on thy cattle which [are] in the field, on horses, on asses, on camels, on herd, and on flock -- a pestilence very grievous.

4 `And Jehovah hath separated between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there doth not die a thing of all the sons of Israel's;

5

6 And Jehovah doth this thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt die, and of the cattle of the sons of Israel not one hath died;


The distinction is "in the field." The cattle in the barns were protected. Those out in the field at those various times were the ones smitten. See how useful the Bible is to an eduction? It gets one to read and think things through. Many answers are there, but one needs to process the story unfolding...


So you mean that the "grievous pestilence" that god sent only attacked animals in the field? Tell me, inform me. Which pestilence do you know that attacks only animals in the field? And apparently, by your interpretation, doesn't harm animals in the barn?

And then, of course, I'd like clarification on what God meant when he said in Exodus 9 verse 6: All the cattle of Egypt die., in which way I should interpret that to mean only some of them died. When God says "all" he means something different to when everybody else uses the word "all"?

Do you have any scripture that shows that when god says "all" he doesn't mean "all"?
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bcuzbcuz wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Exodus 9

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1
2
3 lo, the hand of Jehovah is on thy cattle which [are] in the field, on horses, on asses, on camels, on herd, and on flock -- a pestilence very grievous.

4 `And Jehovah hath separated between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt, and there doth not die a thing of all the sons of Israel's;

5

6 And Jehovah doth this thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt die, and of the cattle of the sons of Israel not one hath died;


The distinction is "in the field." The cattle in the barns were protected. Those out in the field at those various times were the ones smitten. See how useful the Bible is to an eduction? It gets one to read and think things through. Many answers are there, but one needs to process the story unfolding...


So you mean that the "grievous pestilence" that god sent only attacked animals in the field? Tell me, inform me. Which pestilence do you know that attacks only animals in the field? And apparently, by your interpretation, doesn't harm animals in the barn?

And then, of course, I'd like clarification on what God meant when he said in Exodus 9 verse 6: All the cattle of Egypt die., in which way I should interpret that to mean only some of them died. When God says "all" he means something different to when everybody else uses the word "all"?

Do you have any scripture that shows that when god says "all" he doesn't mean "all"?

What "grievous pestilence" do you know only attacks the animals belonging to Egyptians and not those of the Hebrews? This is one in the same. God said "all in the field." He didn't say everywhere.
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LittleNipper wrote:What "grievous pestilence" do you know only attacks the animals belonging to Egyptians and not those of the Hebrews? This is one in the same. God said "all in the field." He didn't say everywhere.


So you'd be happy with verse six being changed to read (for clarification, of course), "6 And the Lord did that thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt in the field died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel Not in the field died not one.
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bcuzbcuz wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:What "grievous pestilence" do you know only attacks the animals belonging to Egyptians and not those of the Hebrews? This is one in the same. God said "all in the field." He didn't say everywhere.


So you'd be happy with verse six being changed to read (for clarification, of course), "6 And the Lord did that thing on the morrow, and all the cattle of Egypt in the field died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel Not in the field died not one.

Exodus 9
1 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, says: “Let my people go, so that they may worship me.” 2 If you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, 3 the hand of the Lord will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the field—on your horses, donkeys and camels and on your cattle, sheep and goats. 4 But the Lord will make a distinction between the livestock of Israel and that of Egypt, so that no animal belonging to the Israelites will die.’”5 The Lord set a time and said, “Tomorrow the Lord will do this in the land.” 6 And the next day the Lord did it: All the livestock of the Egyptians died, but not one animal belonging to the Israelites died. 7 . Yet his heart was unyielding and he Pharaoh investigated and found that not even one of the animals of the Israelites had diedwould not let the people go.



Why change what already is there for the reading?
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