Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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LittleNipper wrote:The ocean presently is 7 miles deep. Mount where the Ark came to rest likely grew higher as the Flood receeded.


I have no idea what you are getting at with your comment about the depth of the ocean in the Mariana trench. If you were trying to claim that the average depth of the ocean was just over 35,000 feet, then you need to rethink your claim.

The amount of additional water needed to cover the entire Earth is not dependent on the depth of the ocean. It is dependent on the height of the highest peak above mean sea level, and the average circumference of the Earth. All you need to do is tell me how high the peak was above MSL and I will give you an estimate of the amount of additional water required, then you can tell me where it went after the flood.

Setting aside for the moment the fact that you answered none of my questions, by what mechanism do you believe the mountain on which the arc came to rest grew taller during the 40 days of the flood?
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LittleNipper wrote:, I believe that the actual interaction between Satan and God was worded so that a human might understand in simple terms.

Do you have any particular reason for believing this, or is it just because you don't like seeing God use humans as pawns in some intergalactic chess game?
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DrW wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:The ocean presently is 7 miles deep. Mount where the Ark came to rest likely grew higher as the Flood receeded.


I have no idea what you are getting at with your comment about the depth of the ocean in the Mariana trench. If you were trying to claim that the average depth of the ocean was just over 35,000 feet, then you need to rethink your claim.

The amount of additional water needed to cover the entire Earth is not dependent on the depth of the ocean. It is dependent on the height of the highest peak above mean sea level, and the average circumference of the Earth. All you need to do is tell me how high the peak was above MSL and I will give you an estimate of the amount of additional water required, then you can tell me where it went after the flood.

Setting aside for the moment the fact that you answered none of my questions, by what mechanism do you believe the mountain on which the arc came to rest grew taller during the 40 days of the flood?

It is dependent on both. If the oceans were only once 2 miles deep and the mountains were only 2 miles above sea level, that would change everything --- would it not? Such is not so hard to understand...
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LittleNipper wrote:It is dependent on both. If the oceans were only once 2 miles deep and the mountains were only 2 miles above sea level, that would change everything --- would it not? Such is not so hard to understand...


Those are pretty big "if"s you're including in your hypothesis. If the ocean wasn't deep and the mountains weren't high, then everything could be covered by water......not so hard to understand.....and not too hard to prove.

Could you find ANY evidence that all the mountains got big and the oceans got deep some 4000 years ago??
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people were shorter so they took up less room.
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LittleNipper wrote:It is dependent on both. If the oceans were only once 2 miles deep and the mountains were only 2 miles above sea level, that would change everything --- would it not? Such is not so hard to understand...


Little Nipper,

You don't get to make up your own data when talking about science. If you want the Earth to be "smooth" with no high mountains or deep trenches, you would have to go back billions of years, not 4,800.

Since you don't seem to understand what the geological record is or what it means, I have started another thread on the Terrestrial Forum to continue this discussion. This new thread will have pictures showing what features of the geological record are at issue. You are invited to show us how Biblical creationism can account for these data.
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the earth is no more smooth than it is round
people often view the atmospheric curvature as bieng the "shape" of the planet...and yet science has shown us otherwise.

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which is why naïve formulas about how the earth may have been or may not have been covered by water are simply inadequate.

even gravity is not as consistent as we would "assume"

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subgenius wrote:the earth is no more smooth than it is round
people often view the atmospheric curvature as bieng the "shape" of the planet...and yet science has shown us otherwise.

Image

which is why naïve formulas about how the earth may have been or may not have been covered by water are simply inadequate.

even gravity is not as consistent as we would "assume"

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Subgenius,

You are invited over to the Terrestrial Creationism Thread to explain to us why you think that mainstream geologists are all wrong.
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bcuzbcuz wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:It is dependent on both. If the oceans were only once 2 miles deep and the mountains were only 2 miles above sea level, that would change everything --- would it not? Such is not so hard to understand...


Those are pretty big "if"s you're including in your hypothesis. If the ocean wasn't deep and the mountains weren't high, then everything could be covered by water......not so hard to understand.....and not too hard to prove.

Could you find ANY evidence that all the mountains got big and the oceans got deep some 4000 years ago??

The Bible certainly suggests such was the case. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth looked when the earth was created.
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