Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

[_Tobin]

The Bible certainly suggests such was the case. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth looked when the earth was created.

So, let me get this straight. God purposefully created the Earth to appear older than it really is to fool scientists?

[_Drifting]

The Bible certainly suggests such was the case. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth looked when the earth was created.

So, let me get this straight. God purposefully created the Earth to appear older than it really is to fool scientists?

Is that really any less daft sounding than the claim that God walked up to a man in the act of sinning and introduced Himself?

[_LittleNipper]

The Bible certainly suggests such was the case. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth looked when the earth was created.

So, let me get this straight. God purposefully created the Earth to appear older than it really is to fool scientists?

No, for scientists can be ignorant people, but God's reason for making the universe appear to have age is for the very reason God created the animals and Adam with age. It was so they could function without dependency. God established a closed ecological system. To do that He couldn't have molten rocks and air filled with toxic fumes. God is an Creative/Artist. He designed the perfect environment to house perfect creatures in a perfect way. It was not until the Fall, that all this began to unravel at a rate in accordance to God's perfect permissive will.

[Guest]

No, for scientists can be ignorant people, but God's reason for making the universe appear to have age is for the very reason God created the animals and Adam with age. It was so they could function without dependency. God established a closed ecological system. To do that He couldn't have molten rocks and air filled with toxic fumes. God is an Creative/Artist. He designed the perfect environment to house perfect creatures in a perfect way. It was not until the Fall, that all this began to unravel at a rate in accordance to God's perfect permissive will.

Little Nipper,

Enough with the assertions presented without evidence. Assertions presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You are wasting everyone's time with these fairy tales. Why not start explaining how things work as you claim, rather than simply asserting without evidence that they work as you claim.

Time to man-up and head over to the new (Young Earth Creationism in the LDS Church) thread created just for you (really) in the Terrestrial Forum, or the parallel (TBM = YEC?) Thread here on the Celestial Forum. Let's see what you've really got.

[_Drifting]

Little Nipper,

Enough with the assertions presented without evidence. Assertions presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You are wasting everyone's time with these fairy tales. Why not start explaining how things work as you claim, rather than simply asserting without evidence that they work as you claim.

Time to man-up and head over to the new YEC thread created just for you in the Terrestrial Forum. Let's see what you've really got.

I'm going to start charging you for advertising...

I predict Little Nipple will use the "God dunnit using magic" argument that he has used throughout this marvellous thread.

[_DrW]

Little Nipper,

Enough with the assertions presented without evidence. Assertions presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You are wasting everyone's time with these fairy tales. Why not start explaining how things work as you claim, rather than simply asserting without evidence that they work as you claim.

Time to man-up and head over to the new YEC thread created just for you in the Terrestrial Forum. Let's see what you've really got.

I'm going to start charging you for advertising...

I predict Little Nipple will use the "God dunnit using magic" argument that he has used throughout this marvellous thread.

If he does, then perhaps we should start a thread about the requirement for magical thinking in LDS theology.

We could ask questions such as, "Should a high profile and self-confessed magical thinker (magical tax plan, magical disaster relief plan, magical budget plan) really be President of the US?"

by the way: Thanks for the free advertising. (At least I hope it was free.)

[_Drifting]

If he does, then perhaps we should start a thread about the requirement for magical thinking in LDS theology.

We could ask questions such as, "Should a high profile and self-confessed magical thinker (magical tax plan, magical disaster relief plan, magical budget plan) really be President of the US?"

by the way: Thanks for the free advertising. (At least I hope it was free.)

Can you see the Situation room with Romney in it?

"Mr President, The Chinese have launched against every city in America..."
"Okay brethren, let us kneel and pray until we get a feeling about what we should do..."
"But Mr Presi..."
"Dear Heavenly Fa *KABOOOM*

[_Drifting]

Okay, a quick recap on the story:

World wicked, Noah told to build a boat, Noah fills boat with animals and good people (circa 8), people thing he's a looney to build a boat in an area with minimal rain fall, rains for 40 days and nights, whole earth flooded, everyone and everthing dies except the people and animals on the ark.

Now, put yourself in the shoes of the unrighteous people; the ones who mocked Noah for building a boat because a flood was coming.

Okay, you don't believe him. But then it satrts to rain. A lot. In a few hours puddles start to appear, in a fews hours streams become torrents, in a few days perhaps low lying areas start to disappear underwater. It reaches your shins, then days later it's up to your waist. Houses become half filled with water, animals start swimming around and drowning. Small children and babies have to be held above the adults heads etc.
People are moving to higher and higher ground as less and less land becomes visible. And so it continues until, after forty days there ain't no land to be had. You swim for as long as you can and then drown, along with your wife and kids.

Here's the unbelievable bit.

Why, at no point did you think "hmmm, perhaps Noah was right let's build a boat"? Boats existed, people went fishing etc. Why not stash some of these boats with food like a lifeboat?

Why, at no point did you think "hmmm, perhaps Noah was right, let's go and get on his boat"? 8 people could not have resisted the sodden mob that came rushing up the hill to board him when they saw the waters rising.

No, instead, you ignored Noah's boat, ingnored your own boats, ignored the urgency of perhaps building a boat and allowed the waters to slowly rise until you were fish food.

A reminder on the OP.
The bit in bold has yet to be addressed...properly.

Why, given that the build up was slow enough not to capsize or destroy the ark, did the wicked not descend upon it?

[_LittleNipper]

No, for scientists can be ignorant people, but God's reason for making the universe appear to have age is for the very reason God created the animals and Adam with age. It was so they could function without dependency. God established a closed ecological system. To do that He couldn't have molten rocks and air filled with toxic fumes. God is an Creative/Artist. He designed the perfect environment to house perfect creatures in a perfect way. It was not until the Fall, that all this began to unravel at a rate in accordance to God's perfect permissive will.

Little Nipper,

Enough with the assertions presented without evidence. Assertions presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You are wasting everyone's time with these fairy tales. Why not start explaining how things work as you claim, rather than simply asserting without evidence that they work as you claim.

Time to man-up and head over to the new (Young Earth Creationism in the LDS Church) thread created just for you (really) in the Terrestrial Forum, or the parallel (TBM = YEC?) Thread here on the Celestial Forum. Let's see what you've really got.

So, present the facts that prove the Big Bang Theory. I cannot wait to see the physical evidence and scientific duplication of the process.

[_SteelHead]

Red shift, background radiation, and the doppler effect.

Sorry nipper, while there is physical evidence supporting the big bang theory, there seems to be 0 supporting the YEC narrative.