Missionaries and Pressure in the Church

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Missionaries and Pressure in the Church

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I am a member of the church, and because of the heavy amount of pressure for men and their missions, I sent off my significant other to the MTC a week ago. It took me all of three days to realize three very important things about missions and the missionary I sent away I should have thought about before, but didn't; due to the pressure and expectations in church society.

One: Not all men want to serve a mission.
    No one ever heard him say he wanted to go on a mission. Everyone knew he felt the need, because his older brother had went, and he had prayed about going on one. Because his mother would be devastated if he didn't serve and everyone would finally respect him if he went. But when asked by me and a friend if he wanted to go, he very obviously averted the question, saying he needed to go. He cried before his setting apart, told his friends he didn't want to go, and ultimately almost made himself late for his flight because he just didn't prepare.

Two: The psychological well being of everyone involved with a missionary is significantly altered by his leaving; and it seems no one thinks this is a problem.
    His mother, a generally happy person and very, very devout member, didn't even show up to church the Sunday following his leaving. His father never spoke about his youngest son's mission, getting quieter and more irritable with anyone helping him to leave the closer the day of his son leaving came. His close friends cheered him on with his decision, but the moment he was gone, questioned why he would actually go. (Because of statements mentioned above.) And I, well, I'm not in very good health. I have Panic Disorder that I worked on in therapy with this man, and had been essentially trained by my therapist to call him whenever I had an attack. Having a heart condition, they refused to give me any medication, and when they did once, I ended up being allergic. So you can imagine that when he left, and I had a large relapse, that I was not entirely okay. I had no one to call, and I cursed him under my breath for making me take those sessions with him. It has strung this week into four doctor's appointments, numerous insistence I request his return, the inability to hold down food, and an overnight in the hospital strapped to an IV to raise my blood sugar because my heart was beating so fast, so constantly, my metabolism began going insane. I've been counseled several times by two different specialists that they believe separation anxiety, coupled with panic disorder, is something extremely hard to medicate. and impossible with my allergies. These people plead with me to tell this missionary, and all I can tell them is that even if I did, there's no way he would leave his mission for this.

Three: Along with the health problems, I'm feeling outrageously guilty.
    He had a problem with porn and masturbation that needed to be fixed before he would even be allowed to file his mission papers, and it never was. He lied about it, and continued to do it right up until at least a week before his mission. I would always ask: "How's that problem?" and he would either tell me it was fine that week, or confess he had been up to it again, and make me promise not to tell anyone. The last time he had confessed to me he had been doing it was the Thursday before he left. So now he's gone, and I'm sitting here wanting to tell the bishop, but knowing that is his responsibility, not mine.

All in all, this experience just this week has given me a perspective on missions. And even though the church says men don't have to go on a mission, the pressure from church members, family, and even the occasional girlfriend who overlooks his feelings, is so immense, that he serves is so massive, that in all reality, he is forced to anyway. From now on, I'm going to tell young men not to go unless they want to, without any pressure affecting their decision. I'm sick of this feeling that I sent off someone to something they weren't ready for, didn't want to go on, and shouldn't have gone on.
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Having served a mission and if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't do it. It is very political and the policies of the Church are very frustrating. I really don't think anyone should go on a mission at 18 or 19 years old. They should seek an education or a trade first. After they have established themselves as a working adult and IF they feel the need to serve in their community, I think the Church should support them in a two year mission to help and serve in the community in which they live. That would do more to promote Mormonism (and living a Christ-like life of service) than anything that is going on today.
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A missionary of the Protestant persuasion believes he is called of God. Just any old person who attends church is not considered missionary material.
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Tobin wrote:Having served a mission and if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't do it. It is very political and the policies of the Church are very frustrating. I really don't think anyone should go on a mission at 18 or 19 years old. They should seek an education or a trade first. After they have established themselves as a working adult and IF they feel the need to serve in their community, I think the Church should support them in a two year mission to help and serve in the community in which they live. That would do more to promote Mormonism (and living a Christ-like life of service) than anything that is going on today.

Tobin,

I agree heavily with your statement.

I've heard from a lot of RM's who aren't around their families, (it seems like all returned missionaries go about trying to make their families think it was the best two years of their life.) the fact that it was useful in learning some forms of independence, but that they felt like what they did could have been learned, and applied, in a college or career setting. Where they were getting an education or earning a life for themselves. It's a very common thing to hear in the Single Adult Ward from "fresh" RM's that they feel weird being home, and I'm not sure that is a good thing. A little detached, yes, but plain weird?

It seems, at least to me, that missions happen at such a time in life that it can have a big impact on the missionary in a supremely negative way. And I do like to press on the fact it effects friends and family quite negatively as well. (something I have noticed is avoided when speaking of missionaries at church.) Your late teens and early twenties are a time in life that a person are very attached to everyone around them because, as you said, the person hasn't established themselves in a career and education based way yet. So every friend the missionary has they dwell on while out on a mission. The what-ifs, if you will, conquer them. "What if I had gotten to hang out with John before I left?". This as opposed to a grown man, who has a very select group of people they would "miss" while out on a mission, not including his family of course.

I would also like to touch on the inter-communal missions you brought up. Those particular missions are actually available now, but only to those the church finds "Mentally or Physically unfit" to serve a mission away from home. Essentially, you are given the title "Elder" but are permitted to stay home, grow, and have a life, while serving a mission at a local temple or church building. Honestly, with the amount of members the Mormon church has gathered (those that are actually active) There is no real reason to send missionaries away from home. Also, Missionaries don't go to places to establish an LDS foundation in their area anymore, but instead go to a place with an already existing church foundation to recruit strangers, then leave. Why do we not just use local missionaries, who know the area, to recruit in their indigenous region instead? No one has to leave home, parents can be aware of their children's safety, missionaries aren't isolated from the world and forced to be completely inept when they return and maybe the suicide rate for early return missionaries will plummet. Maybe, it would re-shape the missionary ideal to be a life-long one, where you better yourself, marry, and always serve, instead of a two year "journey".

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Tobin wrote:Having served a mission and if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't do it. It is very political and the policies of the Church are very frustrating. I really don't think anyone should go on a mission at 18 or 19 years old. They should seek an education or a trade first. After they have established themselves as a working adult and IF they feel the need to serve in their community, I think the Church should support them in a two year mission to help and serve in the community in which they live. That would do more to promote Mormonism (and living a Christ-like life of service) than anything that is going on today.

Oh my.

The church would dry up within one generation.
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LittleNipper wrote:A missionary of the protestast persuasion believes he is called of God. Just any old person who attends church is not considered missionary material.

I wish I could say in Mormonism that same ideal was true, but it isn't. All boys who are raised in the church are raised to go on missions. It isn't like a pilgrimage or christian service mission, it's a grooming process with little concern for not only the potential missionary, but the people he creates relationships with. Parents as well, but they are less willing to offer up a confession to being pained by their son leaving.
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Koda Crest wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:A missionary of the protestast persuasion believes he is called of God. Just any old person who attends church is not considered missionary material.

I wish I could say in Mormonism that same ideal was true, but it isn't. All boys who are raised in the church are raised to go on missions. It isn't like a pilgrimage or christian service mission, it's a grooming process with little concern for not only the potential missionary, but the people he creates relationships with. Parents as well, but they are less willing to offer up a confession to being pained by their son leaving.

I feel that there are certainly other ways young people can be "groomed." One is Bible camp. Another is going on youth retreats. But the reality is that, as a Christian, I know that not everyone who attends church is a saved bonified Christian. And the unsaved individual is not going to be able to present an honest message. Sort of like the blind trying to lead the blind.
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:
Tobin wrote:Having served a mission and if I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't do it. It is very political and the policies of the Church are very frustrating. I really don't think anyone should go on a mission at 18 or 19 years old. They should seek an education or a trade first. After they have established themselves as a working adult and IF they feel the need to serve in their community, I think the Church should support them in a two year mission to help and serve in the community in which they live. That would do more to promote Mormonism (and living a Christ-like life of service) than anything that is going on today.

Oh my.

The church would dry up within one generation.

Well, maybe the Mormon church would. :biggrin: I do not hate Mormons, I just see Mormonism as a secularized "pseudo" church organization organized to make money and impress.
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LittleNipper wrote:I feel that there are certainly other ways young people can be "groomed." One is Bible camp. Another is going on youth retreats. But the reality is that, as a Christian, I know that not everyone who attends church is a saved bonified Christian. And the unsaved individual is not going to be able to present an honest message. Sort of like the blind trying to lead the blind.

I'm glad you aren't under some delusion that every avid church-goer is a saint of virtue. It's more than a little refreshing.
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Ah the pressure of society. Heaven forbid someone should be influenced to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ for two years but it's okay to encourage someone to act on whatever they feel like doing whether it be pre marital sex or homosexual acts or drugs and alcohol, etc. etc.
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