Albion wrote:ldsfaqs says: "..two Gods because they both are called God, but also one God." And the Trinity doctrine is confusing?
Not confusing at all..... They are One God as a GodHead (obviously)
And they are each "God" in their individual rights as exalted beings and authority.
Easy
The Nicene Creed makes things nonsensical (well technically it's the later additions/changes, the original is still Mormon)
Resurrection has a purpose, a body has a purpose, and not just in this life, hence the Resurrection. Christ is the example of who God is. Christ has a body.
I must beg to differ. The Trinity is a Godhead of three persons --- the Father, the Lord, and the Comforter. Each is God in his own right --- being one in purpose, perfection, and performance from eternity to eternity.
Albion wrote:ldsfaqs says: "..two Gods because they both are called God, but also one God." And the Trinity doctrine is confusing?
ldsfaqs wrote:Not confusing at all..... They are One God as a GodHead (obviously) And they are each "God" in their individual rights as exalted beings and authority. Easy The Nicene Creed makes things nonsensical (well technically it's the later additions/changes, the original is still Mormon) Resurrection has a purpose, a body has a purpose, and not just in this life, hence the Resurrection. Christ is the example of who God is. Christ has a body.
LittleNipper wrote:I must beg to differ. The Trinity is a Godhead of three persons --- the Father, the Lord, and the Comforter. Each is God in his own right --- being one in purpose, perfection, and performance from eternity to eternity.
"... the Maurai pantheon of Tanaroa the Creator with Lesu Haristi the Saviour on his right and shark-toothed Nan the Destroyer on his left is called the Triad." (Poul Anderson: "Orion Shall Rise")
*************************** Not confusing at all...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Archibald Henry Sayce wrote:Many of the theories of Egyptian religion, modified and transformed no doubt, have penetrated into the theology of Christian Europe, and form, as it were, part of the woof in the web of modern religious thought. Christian theology was largely organized and nurtured in the schools of Alexandria, and Alexandria was not only the meetingplace of East and West, it was also the place where the decrepit theology of Egypt was revivified by contact with the speculative philosophy of Greece.
Perhaps, however, the indebtedness of Christian theological theory to ancient Egyptian dogma is nowhere more striking than in the doctrine of the Trinity. The very terms used of it by Christian theologians meet us again in the inscriptions and papyri of Egypt.
Originally the trinity was a triad like those we find in Babylonian mythology. The triad consisted of a divine father, wife, and son.
The father became the son and the son the father through all time, and of both alike the mother was but another form.
In other words, the trinity is a syncretic christopagen mashup.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:In other words, the trinity is a syncretic christopagen mashup.
Or perhaps the Trinity, paralleled in other cultures, indicates the Voice of God speaking to peoples who were partially enlightened.
Problems with auto-correct: In Helaman 6:39, we see the Badmintons, so similar to Skousenite Mormons, taking over the government and abusing the rights of many.
Lucy Harris wrote: Or perhaps the Trinity, paralleled in other cultures, indicates the Voice of God speaking to peoples who were partially enlightened.
This of course presupposes the existence of supernatural, superhero-like beings who regularly intervene in human affairs, i.e. god, angels, saints, demons, ghosts, vampires, elves, etc.
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Difference in belief. I think we can agree to disagree here. As frequently is the case.
Problems with auto-correct: In Helaman 6:39, we see the Badmintons, so similar to Skousenite Mormons, taking over the government and abusing the rights of many.
Lucy Harris wrote:Difference in belief. I think we can agree to disagree here. As frequently is the case.
Yes, but there's also the matter of the burden of proof. Shouldn't the burden of proof rest on those who make extravagant claims of ubiquitous intervention in human affairs by magical beings?
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extravagant claims of ubiquitous intervention in human affairs by magical beings?
Ubiquitous intervention? I don't think so. My God is not co-dependent. When people seek God, they often come up with the right answers. When people turn away from Him, they often come up with egregiously wrong answers (Holocaust, for example). God allows mankind to learn from their collective mistakes. That is a lesson on the sinful and selfish heart of mankind, and free will.
Problems with auto-correct: In Helaman 6:39, we see the Badmintons, so similar to Skousenite Mormons, taking over the government and abusing the rights of many.
Lucy Harris wrote:Ubiquitous intervention? I don't think so. My God is not co-dependent.
"Ubiquitous" refers to the presumed omnipresence of the christian god.
Lucy Harris wrote:When people seek God, they often come up with the right answers. When people turn away from Him, they often come up with egregiously wrong answers (Holocaust, for example). God allows mankind to learn from their collective mistakes. That is a lesson on the sinful and selfish heart of mankind, and free will.
I apologize if I'm misreading your reply, but it seems like you're trying to change the subject instead of answering what I think is a legitimate question. If you like, I'll remove the word "ubiquitous" from it: Shouldn't the burden of proof rest on those who make extravagant claims of intervention in human affairs by magical beings?
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I will have to look up the dictionary definition of ubiquitous.
I still object to the use of the word "extravagant." God chooses to intervene or not. With that word removed-- I don't have to prove the claim, since I, and many others, need the faith (which we believe is the way God made us). I don't have to convince you. That is God's job.
Problems with auto-correct: In Helaman 6:39, we see the Badmintons, so similar to Skousenite Mormons, taking over the government and abusing the rights of many.
As frequently is the case.