Genealogical Conundrum
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Genealogical Conundrum
My first ex-wife pointed out to me, that in the Church records, my mother has been sealed to two different men.
Have any of you experienced something similar on your own family tree? Wish I could discern whether Mom is enjoying this arrangement. In this life, I think she would have been unhappy with this doubling down.
Does the Church have a method of handling these things?
Have any of you experienced something similar on your own family tree? Wish I could discern whether Mom is enjoying this arrangement. In this life, I think she would have been unhappy with this doubling down.
Does the Church have a method of handling these things?
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moksha wrote:My first ex-wife pointed out to me, that in the Church records, my mother has been sealed to two different men.
Have any of you experienced something similar on your own family tree? Wish I could discern whether Mom is enjoying this arrangement. In this life, I think she would have been unhappy with this doubling down.
Does the Church have a method of handling these things?
are not proxy ordinances still subject to "voluntary acceptance" by the object of said ordinance?
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subgenius wrote:are not proxy ordinances still subject to "voluntary acceptance" by the object of said ordinance?
SG,
That would make sense. Is there somewhere this is stated, especially in reference to what Moksha mentions?
Not a CFR, I am just curious to read more on it, if there is anything.
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Was she married to both men during her life? If so, there's nothing to do.
If not, you can call Salt Lake and get them to remove the error.
If not, you can call Salt Lake and get them to remove the error.
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This is not unusual. Marinda Johnson Hyde (Orson Hyde's wife) is on family search records as being sealed to both Joseph Smith and BY so who knows what kind of wild kinky stuff is going on in the CK.
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Fence Sitter wrote:subgenius wrote:are not proxy ordinances still subject to "voluntary acceptance" by the object of said ordinance?
SG,
That would make sense. Is there somewhere this is stated, especially in reference to what Moksha mentions?
Not a CFR, I am just curious to read more on it, if there is anything.
Here are two links to get you started
"People who did not receive these blessings during mortality will have that opportunity in the spirit world. Because they do not have physical bodies in the spirit world, they cannot receive the ordinances themselves. However, we can receive the ordinances in their behalf. Individuals in the spirit world then choose whether to accept or reject the ordinances that have been performed for them."
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"3. Vicarious ordinances become effective only when the deceased persons for whom the ordinances were performed accept them in the spirit world and honor the related covenants. - Handbook 2: Administering the Church (2010), 2.1.2.
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just me wrote:Was she married to both men during her life? If so, there's nothing to do.
So even with divorce in life, polyandry in death needs only posthumous Temple ordinances, with or without the consent of surviving relatives.
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subgenius wrote:Here are two links to get you started
"People who did not receive these blessings during mortality will have that opportunity in the spirit world. Because they do not have physical bodies in the spirit world, they cannot receive the ordinances themselves. However, we can receive the ordinances in their behalf. Individuals in the spirit world then choose whether to accept or reject the ordinances that have been performed for them."
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"3. Vicarious ordinances become effective only when the deceased persons for whom the ordinances were performed accept them in the spirit world and honor the related covenants. - Handbook 2: Administering the Church (2010), 2.1.2.
sweet, so some women, and their husbands, may choose to stick with the multiple sealings of a given woman to several men which has been done for them in this life.
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moksha wrote:My first ex-wife ...
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Does the Church have a method of handling these things?
Well, I don't ask You how many ex-wife You have (... You may reveal it, for the records).
I have three ex-wife.
With the first one I have one daughter (43).
With the third one, I married four more children (43, 41, 41, 35).
My third ex-wife is my 4th, current wife.

Does the Church have a method of handling these things?
by the way
With husbands of my first and third/fourth wives I am in per tu (thing You stupid English speakers can not really understand - sorry) and we are in good relation, because of grandchildrens.
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RockSlider wrote:sweet, so some women, and their husbands, may choose to stick with the multiple sealings of a given woman to several men which has been done for them in this life.
Some of the adoptions and marriages in the early years of the Church would create similar problems. BY would "adopt" an older woman to be his "daughter" then marry that woman's daughter, leaving the relationship between the women really screwed up. (Sisters?, mother and daughter? or)
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