My gut tells me tha this has little to do with what happened at the school, and more to do with their opinion of homosexuality. Maybe your actually on the wrong side of the fence you claim to be sitting on.
The fence I am sitting on tells me that on one side are people looking to draw strength from God in a difficult time, on the other are people looking to use a difficult time to draw attention to their personal beliefs.
One must be willing to share strength in God in order to bring healing. God is the only answer.
SteelHead wrote:Watch out for the thin skinned god who resorts to violence when mocked.
Why do we give god a pass on reprehensible behavior?
If God was as you present him, you would no longer here. What will your excuse be come judgment day? Caution, "I didn't know," will not fly in your case.
The fact that I mock your vengeful god and nothing happens is proof of his impotence and mythological existence. It is your narrative and belief that he is vengeful. I refuse to acknowledge your god who according to you:
Abhors the slaughter of innocents via abortion
So then
Allows the slaughter of innocents in retribution.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
LittleNipper wrote:One must be willing to share strength in God in order to bring healing. God is the only answer.
That's what the Westboro Baptist members say too. Somehow I think their 'answer' is vastly different from yours. Why is that?
You might also want to answer Justme's question.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
just me wrote:[Based on what evidence? Shootings have happened at churches and religious gatherings...
still waiting...
The percentages of churches in the US that have been shot up are far lower then that of public schools. Bad things happen to good people, but if we build a society on godlessness, we will reap the whirlwind.
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SteelHead wrote:The fact that I mock your vengeful god and nothing happens is proof of his impotence and mythological existence. It is your narrative and belief that he is vengeful. I refuse to acknowledge your god who according to you:
Abhors the slaughter of innocents via abortion
So then
Allows the slaughter of innocents in retribution.
My God punishes nations that are currupt. God punished the United States with a Civil War. He punished both Germany and Japan. And unless you repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you will face eternal punishment. And if God is so mythological, why are you foolishly wasting your time on something you consider trivial? I obviously believe in God and believe your soul is important to me --- maybe it is God saying to me, "Don't give up." You don't believe in a soul. If I am right you have everything to lose. If you are right I'll realize nothing at death. But I know there is a God. And you seem to be spending lots of time trying to prove you are right and I am wrong ------ so who is seemingly the bigger idiot?
SteelHead wrote:Sub, how does your explanation make this biblical event any more acceptable?
Please explain how mauling, taring, or killing 42 youth is justified, then explain why 20 dead 5 - 6 year olds is justified.
Those trying to make religious hay out of this are sick and the inferences, obscene.
And thank you for the Adam Clarke commentary cut and paste......
I publicly declare my ethics superior to a god who is so thin skinned that he mauls youth for mocking his prophet, and who lets children die out of vengeance or to teach a lesson.
By what kind of sick morality is killing a child a sin except when god does it eg; the flood, the firstborn of Egypt, etc etc? Sacrifice children to Baal = bad. Sacrifice children to Jehovah = good.
Sorry, but the young man who shot up the school was the sick one. And if your logic/ethics made him mad, then you and others like yourself have something to answer for. You are for Abortion. You are for Homosexual marriage. You are for preventing creation from being presented in science classes. You imagine that you are bigger than the Creator. You are facing God's judgment and it will come sooner than you imagine. God will not be mocked.
Nipper, you are the one who worships a god that you imply allows these things to happen as retribution for our disbelief. This is a sick belief.
You can show no link from the calamities of the past and the action of your god of vengeance outside of unsupported assertion.
Your version of god is unworthy of my worship, being a petty, trite, and spiteful imaginary friend.
If it had been within my power to stop the shooter, knowing his intentions, and able to stop him with minimal exertion and no personal risk, and yet I didn't; would I be labeled: reprehensible criminally negligent ?
Why does your omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent, imaginary friend get a pass?
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
LittleNipper wrote:My God punishes nations that are currupt. God punished the United States with a Civil War. He punished both Germany and Japan. And unless you repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you will face eternal punishment. And if God is so mythological, why are you foolishly wasting your time on something you consider trivial? I obviously believe in God and believe your soul is important to me --- maybe it is God saying to me, "Don't give up." You don't believe in a soul. If I am right you have everything to lose. If you are right I'll realize nothing at death. But I know there is a God. And you seem to be spending lots of time trying to prove you are right and I am wrong ------ so who is seemingly the bigger idiot?
I don't think you have noticed, Nipper, but you are not winning souls here. You're just alienating the very good and very intelligent people on this board.
You assume that your very own version of God is the correct one and anyone that disagrees with you is doomed to eternal punishment.
I think if anyone here would have a little trouble when it comes time to stand before God, it will be you.
If preaching is something that you find compulsive, you might want to consider finding a flock of willing listeners and starting your own church. Your best bet might be with those poor souls that are uneducated and and have little experience with religion.
You should also consider using a spell checker when you post.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
LittleNipper wrote:My God punishes nations that are currupt. God punished the United States with a Civil War. He punished both Germany and Japan. And unless you repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you will face eternal punishment. And if God is so mythological, why are you foolishly wasting your time on something you consider trivial? I obviously believe in God and believe your soul is important to me --- maybe it is God saying to me, "Don't give up." You don't believe in a soul. If I am right you have everything to lose. If you are right I'll realize nothing at death. But I know there is a God. And you seem to be spending lots of time trying to prove you are right and I am wrong ------ so who is seemingly the bigger idiot?
I don't think you have noticed, Nipper, but you are not winning souls here. You're just alienating the very good and very intelligent people on this board.
You assume that your very own version of God is the correct one and anyone that disagrees with you is doomed to eternal punishment.
I think if anyone here would have a little trouble when it comes time to stand before God, it will be you.
If preaching is something that you find compulsive, you might want to consider finding a flock of willing listeners and starting your own church. Your best bet might be with those poor souls that are uneducated and and have little experience with religion.
You should also consider using a spell checker when you post.
God didn't ask anyone to save souls. He asks His children to be witnesses and preach the Gospel. God doesn't save the "good" and "intelligent." Christ came to save the lost and the sinful. I am here to sow seeds, and to point out problems with not accepting biblical inerrancy. Show me in the Bible where I am wrong and I will accept that. Tell me how you "feel" and I will say that the Bible carries far more weight. You keep telling me to go away ----- and that seems to indicate that people are listenting. If they offered spell check here, I would use it. As it is, I don't make fun of the shortcomings of others and feel that as true christians they will not make fun of mine.
