Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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LittleNipper wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:by the way, why aren't you posting on a board that has actual Mormons on it? Are you scared to be put in your place by some of our smartest? This board only has a couple of token Mormons posting here, 95% of the rest aren't Mormon.

The problem with your suggestion is that unless one is receptive to Mormon DOGMA, one is banned from such "noble" Mormon sites by those controlling such sites.

I don't agree at all. I've even been banned from Mormon sites, not because I was Mormon, but because of my perceived behavior, real or not.

Momon sites for the most part love to speak about the "weather." They are not interested in hearing anything they disagree with and they will label converstaions as "proselytizing" or "argumentative,"

Funny, but that is what anti-mormon and Christian sites do.
The only allow a couple of "token" Mormons, and ban the rest. I know because I've been banned many times from many, no matter how nice or respectful I was. They simply didn't like someone who could debunk their views.

and suddenly one will find him/herself banned. Not for being mean, or nasty, or even using foul language but simply because they must view discussion and disagreement as a THREAT to their traditions.

Not true. All kinds of non-LDS post at LDS forums and they aren't banned. Mormons primarily ban because they aren't interested in the bigotry and otherwise. They are interested in actual moral and respectful discussion. Christian forums ban you for using the term "anti-mormon", which is simply a term to describe those engaging in anti-mormonism.

Further, do you really want to compare who's more "insecure" and fascist?
Do we have your "ministry's" of hate? Do we have your legions of warriors to destroy your faith? Do we misrepresent your faith at every turn? No.

Our human fallibility whatever it is isn't even close to your kinds.

I have not found this at Christian websites. Most Christians will bend over backward to witness to outsiders and will not ban anyone for simply disagreeing with Bible interpretation or a seeming atheistic stand.

You clearly live in a box if you believe this. This may be true in a "general" sense, but not when it concerns Mormons. Mormons are relegated to the back of the bus. For example, at Christianforums.com we can't post anywhere but the Unorthodox Theology forum. We are relegated to having to defend our faith from those who live their lives attacking faith.

I do find this site a breath of fresh air in that I feel some real Mormons are perhaps seeing that Christianity is not about Joseph Smith and exactly why not --- without having the iron curtain drawn shut. True Christians understand that there is a real world outside and that they must accept that non-believers will have a worldview apart from themselves. Christians are not afraid of disagreement. In fact, it has a tendency to make one search the scriptures and read his Bible and pray all the more.

This site is only fresh air because almost anything is allowed to be said.
As to your claim about "christians". I would disagree. The entire anti-mormon movement is one built on an insecurity complex and bully syndrome. People that are "comfortable" around others not like them are not people who have movements trying to destroy those people and their Faiths.

But if what one believes is built on sand -------- the house of cards will fall, and for such, keeping the rain and sea away is their only option.

Well, since Mormons don't keep people away, don't shun them, will pray with them, don't have ministry's against them, etc., it seems our foundation is a more sure foundation than yours.

You shouldn't confuse LDS asking for basic respect and decorum in their own houses with being the same thing as your peoples actions which entirely ban people because of their beliefs.

For proof of this, you may wish to look for postings by LittleNipper and fully understand why he no longer posts there... It had really little to do with LittleNipper.

Some strange moderators at MA&DB is not a movement and "pattern" make. Again, I was banned there the last time simply because I asked someone to stop causing problems by his disrespectful post to me. FAIR used to be much more FAIR, but since it's not FAIR anymore but MA&DB, it's a different entity and standard.
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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ldsfaqs wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:[The problem with your suggestion is that unless one is receptive to Mormon DOGMA, one is banned from such "noble" Mormon sites by those controlling such sites.

I don't agree at all. I've even been banned from Mormon sites, not because I was Mormon, but because of my perceived behavior, real or not.

Momon sites for the most part love to speak about the "weather." They are not interested in hearing anything they disagree with and they will label converstaions as "proselytizing" or "argumentative,"

Funny, but that is what anti-mormon and Christian sites do.
The only allow a couple of "token" Mormons, and ban the rest. I know because I've been banned many times from many, no matter how nice or respectful I was. They simply didn't like someone who could debunk their views.

and suddenly one will find him/herself banned. Not for being mean, or nasty, or even using foul language but simply because they must view discussion and disagreement as a THREAT to their traditions.

Not true. All kinds of non-LDS post at LDS forums and they aren't banned. Mormons primarily ban because they aren't interested in the bigotry and otherwise. They are interested in actual moral and respectful discussion. Christian forums ban you for using the term "anti-mormon", which is simply a term to describe those engaging in anti-mormonism.

Further, do you really want to compare who's more "insecure" and fascist?
Do we have your "ministry's" of hate? Do we have your legions of warriors to destroy your faith? Do we misrepresent your faith at every turn? No.

Our human fallibility whatever it is isn't even close to your kinds.

I have not found this at Christian websites. Most Christians will bend over backward to witness to outsiders and will not ban anyone for simply disagreeing with Bible interpretation or a seeming atheistic stand.

You clearly live in a box if you believe this. This may be true in a "general" sense, but not when it concerns Mormons. Mormons are relegated to the back of the bus. For example, at Christianforums.com we can't post anywhere but the Unorthodox Theology forum. We are relegated to having to defend our faith from those who live their lives attacking faith.

I do find this site a breath of fresh air in that I feel some real Mormons are perhaps seeing that Christianity is not about Joseph Smith and exactly why not --- without having the iron curtain drawn shut. True Christians understand that there is a real world outside and that they must accept that non-believers will have a worldview apart from themselves. Christians are not afraid of disagreement. In fact, it has a tendency to make one search the scriptures and read his Bible and pray all the more.

This site is only fresh air because almost anything is allowed to be said.
As to your claim about "christians". I would disagree. The entire anti-mormon movement is one built on an insecurity complex and bully syndrome. People that are "comfortable" around others not like them are not people who have movements trying to destroy those people and their Faiths.

But if what one believes is built on sand -------- the house of cards will fall, and for such, keeping the rain and sea away is their only option.

Well, since Mormons don't keep people away, don't shun them, will pray with them, don't have ministry's against them, etc., it seems our foundation is a more sure foundation than yours.

You shouldn't confuse LDS asking for basic respect and decorum in their own houses with being the same thing as your peoples actions which entirely ban people because of their beliefs.

For proof of this, you may wish to look for postings by LittleNipper and fully understand why he no longer posts there... It had really little to do with LittleNipper.

Some strange moderators at MA&DB is not a movement and "pattern" make. Again, I was banned there the last time simply because I asked someone to stop causing problems by his disrespectful post to me. FAIR used to be much more FAIR, but since it's not FAIR anymore but MA&DB, it's a different entity and standard.

Christians stand on inerrancy of God's Holy Word --- the Bible. If one tries to remove that standard or add another the babes in Christ and those seeking wisdom and truth may be lead astray. We do stick to our gun but we do not chase people away. They leave on their own. Foul language is really the only issue and that is to protect children and youth from smuttiness and filth. There is enough of that in the world today...
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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A couple of thoughts from this thread. ldsfaqs says there are only a "couple of token Mormons" on this board. So...if there are only "token" Mormons here, what exactly is ldsfaqs? Secondly, ldsfaqs attacks those opposed to Mormonism here as "bigots"...since he admits to being on numerous Christian boards what does that make him there using his logic?
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Albion wrote:A couple of thoughts from this thread. ldsfaqs says there are only a "couple of token Mormons" on this board. So...if there are only "token" Mormons here, what exactly is ldsfaqs? Secondly, ldsfaqs attacks those opposed to Mormonism here as "bigots"...since he admits to being on numerous Christian boards what does that make him there using his logic?

first things first....what logic?
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Albion wrote:A couple of thoughts from this thread. ldsfaqs says there are only a "couple of token Mormons" on this board. So...if there are only "token" Mormons here, what exactly is ldsfaqs? Secondly, ldsfaqs attacks those opposed to Mormonism here as "bigots"...since he admits to being on numerous Christian boards what does that make him there using his logic?


1. I don't call or attack people who "oppose" Mormonism as bigots, I am critical of actual bigotry, bigoted actions and words. I've interacted with many over the years that oppose Mormonism but are not bigots. Sadly, there are very few of such decent people, equivalent to LDS character, maybe .01% compared to the rest who are bigots, but, they exist.

2. Various forums I've posted on over the years, some with several different user names because of being unfairly banned, I post there because I'm defending the faith from false attacks and in some cases also attacking that bigotry like I do here. But even when I'm not attacking the bigotry, but simply responding with the facts, such as as I did at MA&DB, I've gotten banned. I'm not the only one. Even always respectful LDS get banned at "Christian" forums.
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Whats MA&DB ?

I don't mind Mormon Apologists like Timothy Berman , Darryl Barksdale or any one like them since they attack the messenger and have to defend a False religion. Easy to beat them >
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Mittens wrote:Whats MA&DB ?

I don't mind Mormon Apologists like Timothy Berman , Darryl Barksdale or any one like them since they attack the messenger and have to defend a False religion. Easy to beat them >


Yep, it is easy to corner a defender of a false religion. The really hard thing is to find a true one. Still looking.
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Mittens wrote:http://mormonthink.com/itstartedwithscience.htm

Former Missionarys testimony


Mittens,

What scientific evidence do you have that Jesus was resurrected and is the son of God?
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Re: Mormon Heresy running rampant

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Tobin wrote:
Mittens wrote:http://mormonthink.com/itstartedwithscience.htm

Former Missionarys testimony


Mittens,

What scientific evidence do you have that Jesus was resurrected and is the son of God?

Please see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utgn6Vrlvdg
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