Conversion Stories

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subgenius wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Sub-Genius,

I have no idea what you're saying. Your thoughts are incoherently expressed, your grammar is atrocious, and your syntax betrays your synoptic shortcomings. I feel sorry for you. :(

V/R
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then my apologies.

oversimplification to follow:

1. whatever happens after the gun does not fire is irrelevant.
2. you have displayed little, if any, critical thinking with your posts on the matter.
3. Atheists are predominately foolish.
4. http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque


Hello Sub-Genius,

You just demonstrated, once again, why I wrote what I wrote. Additionally, your logical fallacy example isn't relevant. You're a young person, aren't you?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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I was saved at the the age of 12 at a little community church. I was at a Friday night youth meeting and the presentation of the Gospel message was given and I accepted the Lord at that time. I remember feeling totally free and wanting to tell everyone about Jesus. My friends all saw a big change. Some said, "Everything you talk about comes right back to God!" Some thought I was an old stick in the mud. But I do know that things were never the same again. My entire view of life seemed different from many others.
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LittleNipper wrote:I was saved athe the age of 12 at a little community church. I was at a Friday night youth meeting and the presentation of the Gospel message was given and I accepted the Lord at that time. I remember feeling totally free and wanting to tell everyone about Jesus. My friends all saw a big change. Some said, "Everything you talk about comes right back to God!" Some thought I was an old stick in the mud. But I do know that things were never the same again. My entire view of life seemed different from many others.


You were 12.

When I was 12 I thought Mormonism was the cat's pajamas. What did you convert from?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Conversion Stories

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subgenius wrote:
Brad Hudson wrote:Does a Christian give credit to God for the fall? For the holocaust?

was my post really that confusing? exactly what did you misunderstand?


Your logical fallacy is: loaded question. Try again.


subgenius wrote:
Brad Hudson wrote:As I read God's reply to Job, "Who the heck are you?" is a pretty good summary. ;-)

not a good summary at all...more likely an indication that you did not actually read the book.


Unstated premises. Try again.
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Brad Hudson wrote:Your logical fallacy is: loaded question. Try again.

i am pretty sure my statement of "actually, good or bad..God gets the credit" covered your examples, did it not?......or were you proposing your examples as those which were neither good nor bad and thus required further clarification? (since my statement obviously covered the good and bad...perhaps you were thinking of the ugly?).

Brad Hudson wrote:Unstated premises. Try again.

I agree..stating "Who the heck are you?" is a pretty good summary" is quite unsupported. I suppose i was trying to be more colorful in my pointing out of the obvious.

However, the statement "Who the heck are you?" is a pretty good summary" does contradict any conclusion one could reasonably reach by actually reading the book of Job.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:I was saved athe the age of 12 at a little community church. I was at a Friday night youth meeting and the presentation of the Gospel message was given and I accepted the Lord at that time. I remember feeling totally free and wanting to tell everyone about Jesus. My friends all saw a big change. Some said, "Everything you talk about comes right back to God!" Some thought I was an old stick in the mud. But I do know that things were never the same again. My entire view of life seemed different from many others.


You were 12.

When I was 12 I thought Mormonism was the cat's pajamas. What did you convert from?

V/R
Dr. Cam

I converted from being unsaved.
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Subgenius,

Is there something complicated about the questions I asked. Do I need to simplify them for you?

It is your leap from my comment on Job to the conclusion that I likely hadn't read the book that involves unstated premises. Try again, and show your work this time.
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LittleNipper wrote:I converted from being unsaved.


Sigh... I hate conversing with Believers sometimes. What denomination, sect, or faith did you belong in or was raised in?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Conversion Stories

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Brad Hudson wrote:Subgenius,

Is there something complicated about the questions I asked. Do I need to simplify them for you?

Ironic
There its nothing more complicated than could be found in my original statement that started this discourse. You know, where you apparently needed clarification for the following,

actually, good or bad..God gets the credit


If this statement is somehow elusive to you, then i an not sure i possess the talent or skill to communicate effectively with you, and i would not want to inadvertently insult you or waste your time.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
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Re: Conversion Stories

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Brad, the answer is yes; Subgenius gives the Lord Jesus Christ all the credit for the holocaust.
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