Are the Laws of Nature Immutable? Or does God get a Pass?

[_SteelHead]

Chuck Norris doesn't move the rock, he just glares at it, and it gets out of his way.

[_LittleNipper]

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Little Nipper,

SteelHead asks a perfectly logical question, to which you cannot provide a rational answer, so you revert to unfounded dogmatic religionist pronouncements (mumbo jumbo).

I understand that it is really difficult to defend a belief system that is the result of a series of tall tales told and refined over a couple of thousand years. But you are going to have to do better than this.[/quote]

It is not a logical question. It is a hypothetical question. There is no logical reason God would wish to create a rock so big He could not move it. You believe you exist because of natural chance. You believe that the earth has not been blown away by some asteroid over billions of years because you believe in luck. You believe you were not run over or killed in some accident growing up because you believe survival of the fittest. You have the most difficult belief system to support because chance seems to be the most flimsy of reasons to build goals on.

[_SteelHead]

Nipper,
I think (and he can correct me) that DrW was referring to the questions about why a perfect, all knowing god repents, relents, and/or changes his mind.

[_LittleNipper]

Nipper,
I think (and he can correct me) that DrW was referring to the questions about why a perfect, all knowing god repents, relents, and/or changes his mind.

I believe God is revealing to humanity why He does what He does in a way that FALLEN humans might relate to. God changes our minds and in that way He stays His hand for a time. Read Jonah.

[_SteelHead]

Nipper,
I think (and he can correct me) that DrW was referring to the questions about why a perfect, all knowing god repents, relents, and/or changes his mind.

I believe God is revealing to humanity why He does what He does in a way that FALLEN humans might relate to. God changes our minds and in that way He stays His hand for a time. Read Jonah.

And with that pronouncement..... can I throw out YEC, biblical inerrancy & literalism?

And yet the scripture I linked 20 versions of did not show man changing his/her/its collective rather it shows god changing his mind. How does a perfect all knowing being have to change his mind?

[_LittleNipper]

I believe God is revealing to humanity why He does what He does in a way that FALLEN humans might relate to. God changes our minds and in that way He stays His hand for a time. Read Jonah.

And with that pronouncement..... can I throw out YEC, biblical inerrancy & literalism?

And yet the scripture I linked 20 versions of did not show man changing his/her/its collective rather it shows god changing his mind. How does a perfect all knowing being have to change his mind?

Absolutely NOT! Please see: https://www.christiancourier.com/articl ... e-his-mind

[_SteelHead]

Oh I got it, the Bible employs figures of speech when it is convenient to explain away something, and doesn't when it is contrary to YEC, and biblical literalism.

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[_LittleNipper]

Oh I got it, the Bible employs figures of speech when it is convenient to explain away something, and doesn't when it is contrary to YEC, and biblical literalism.

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The issues are different. With the one, spirit God is beyond man's understanding and is presented in human language. In the other, man lives in the material with God placed boundaries. God says He is perfect. He tells us He made the earth good. Jesus says that only God is good. Therefore, God is saying that Creation was originally created perfect. That perfection was currupted after the Fall of man and not before according to the simplist understanding of the Bible. Therefore evolution ---- survival of the fittest imperfection over a weaker imperfection is totally a false assumption. This is not how man came to be according to God's given revelation. Man was created individually in God's image from God created dust. There are obvious signs that many animals were destroyed suddenly and quickly by catechismic events or an event. It is the assumption of non-revelation acceptance that fabricates billlions of years of evolution. Unregenerated man worships creation rather than the Creator. Such involves either that which he fabricated with his own hands or the materials/elements surrounding him.

[Guest]

Oh I got it, the Bible employs figures of speech when it is convenient to explain away something, and doesn't when it is contrary to YEC, and biblical literalism.

Wait
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What?

The issues are different. With the one, spirit God is beyond man's understanding and is presented in human language. In the other, man lives in the material with God placed boundaries. God says He is perfect. He tells us He made the earth good. Jesus says that only God is good. Therefore, God is saying that Creation was originally created perfect. That perfection was currupted after the Fall of man and not before according to the simplist understanding of the Bible. Therefore evolution ---- survival of the fittest imperfection over a weaker imperfection is totally a false assumption. This is not how man came to be according to God's given revelation. Man was created individually in God's image from God created dust. There are obvious signs that many animals were destroyed suddenly and quickly by catechismic events or an event. It is the assumption of non-revelation acceptance that fabricates billlions of years of evolution. Unregenerated man worships creation rather than the Creator. Such involves either that which he fabricated with his own hands or the materials/elements surrounding him.

Highly critical comment deferred until after all the parts of my exploded skull are found and re-assembled.

[_SteelHead]

Nipper has entered the apologist esteemed realm of Olympic level mental gymnastics.

I award you a "silver medal".