Religious exception to laws
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I have no good answer. I'm not sure there are principled distinctions to be made.
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Brad Hudson wrote:I have no good answer. I'm not sure there are principled distinctions to be made.
The First Amendment would read more accurately as "Congress may only make laws prohibiting aspects of the exercise of religion that the Supreme Courts think would be repugnant if permitted; ... ."
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sock puppet wrote:Brad Hudson wrote:I have no good answer. I'm not sure there are principled distinctions to be made.
The First Amendment would read more accurately as "Congress may only make laws prohibiting aspects of the exercise of religion that the Supreme Courts think would be repugnant if permitted; ... ."
It's a little different than that, isn't it? Something like: Congress can make laws that infringe on religious practice as long as they are generally applicable laws that aren't targeted at the religious practice. I mean, churches are subject to zoning laws, health regulations, etc. It doesn't have to be a repugnant practice, does it?
The harder part to figure out for me is deciding when to grant accommodations when the power to regulate exists.
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Brad Hudson wrote:I have no good answer. I'm not sure there are principled distinctions to be made.
I don't have a good answer either.
I just hope that doesn't mean that Droopy gets to decide
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lulu wrote:Brad Hudson wrote:I have no good answer. I'm not sure there are principled distinctions to be made.
I don't have a good answer either.
I just hope that doesn't mean that Droopy gets to decide
Actually, I don't think anyone who thinks they have a good answer should be allowed to decide.
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I thought the 1st amendment was more about the government not being able to establish a state religion, and less about the individual religious practitioner?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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harmony wrote:I thought the 1st amendment was more about the government not being able to establish a state religion, and less about the individual religious practitioner?
There are two parts: the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
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Brad Hudson wrote:harmony wrote:I thought the 1st amendment was more about the government not being able to establish a state religion, and less about the individual religious practitioner?
There are two parts: the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
So we're good with the first half and not so good with the second? That's pretty typical for the government.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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lulu wrote:I don't have a good answer either.
I just hope that doesn't mean that Droopy gets to decide
Brad Hudson wrote:Actually, I don't think anyone who thinks they have a good answer should be allowed to decide.
ROFL
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harmony wrote:So we're good with the first half and not so good with the second? That's pretty typical for the government.
Not sure what you mean. I think we do pretty well on both issues.
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