Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, blind guide

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BEST WORSHIP SITE I CAN FIND


http://www.youtube.com/user/jesusisjehovah

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http://www.courageouschristiansunited.o ... ians-43788

Here's another Link talking about Jeffrey R Hollands lies

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The Trinity was a late Christian attempt to have their cake and eat it, too; to affirm at one and the same time the belief that there is one God, and the belief that Jesus is God (and the Holy Ghost, too, when it comes to that).

An often-said assertion of Mormons, and other non-Trinitarians, but I would like to see the documentation that shows this. Also, there is not "too", there just is, "is".

Instead of harmonizing the two ideas, the Trinity simply claims both mutually exclusive ideas to be correct and declares the rationale to be a mystery.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

God has revealed himself as One. God has also revealed himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Mormons attempt to divide God, into Gods, calling this polytheistic belief "one God". Silliness, if you ask me.

Most theologians would tell you the Creeds were an outgrowth of the councils. This is the informed view. The popular view is that the Trinity was prefigured in the Bible and the creeds are just finishing touches.

We now know that in oldest formulation, YHWH was originally son of the Most High, not the Most High himself, based on Deuteronomy 32:8-9. Two distinct gods. So the problem of Nicaea, to try to fit the Father/Son/Holy Ghost into monotheism, is a problem that never should have existed.

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So Nelson must believe in Polytheism ? and nowhere in the Bible or Book of Mormon does it teach Jehovah was a son of God. The Book of Mormon even teaches

Mosiah 15
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

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So Nelson must believe in Polytheism ? and nowhere in the Bible or Book of Mormon does it teach Jehovah was a son of God. The Book of Mormon even teaches

Mosiah 15
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

Deu 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
Deu 32:9 For the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

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So Nelson must believe in Polytheism ? and nowhere in the Bible or Book of Mormon does it teach Jehovah was a son of God. The Book of Mormon even teaches

Mosiah 15
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

Deu 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
Deu 32:9 For the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

Romans 9:
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are [b]the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God[/b]:

Notice how only believers are called Children Of God


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duHHgL9 ... ELV34ZNQ2A

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Deu 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
Deu 32:9 For the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

Romans 9:
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are [b]the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God[/b]:

Notice how only believers are called Children Of God


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duHHgL9 ... ELV34ZNQ2A

Haha, change the subject.

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Utterly incoherent. I can't make heads or tails of this. Anyone else?

I'm an atheist, and I got it.

Looks like a personal problem to me.

Liar. Atheists never get it.

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Nelson Chung wrote:

Liar. Atheists never get it.

I didn't know that this type of language is ok in the celestial kingdom.

Nelson, watch your mouth up here, ok?

Oh, I got it, with some work, but, nevertheless...And go figure, I am an atheist, as well.

You gonna call me a liar too, Nelson?

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Psalm 14 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.